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grams. That is not going to last forever. Other countries are pretty clever. They're pretty good. They've got good design.
Mr. CONYERS. I remember when we used to laugh at Japan's work
Mr. Reichman. That's right. That's right.
Mr. CONYERS. It was a big joke.
Mr. Reichman. So it's important to find a balance that's fair, that's good for the international market. If it's good for the market as a whole, then we will get our share because we're good competitors. If it's tipped too far in our favor temporarily, when the other guys get good, we'll have to pay them tribute for as long as national treatment requires us to do that.
Mr. Co^fYERS. Mr. Chairman, you've been very generous with time.
And I want to — I suppose I should thank you gentlemen about this, but I should thank Carlos for calling all of you. You know what he could have done if we want to be clever? We call one of you guys and then we all gang up on you, and this never gets in the record.
But he's a fair Republican chairman. Take note of that. He allows me to go over time and only whispers to me that my time has run out. [Laughter.]
So, you know, this is a wonderful hearing and I'm glad that you were able to present your views, and I thank you very much.
Mr. MoORHEAD. The gentleman from Ohio, Mr. Hoke.
Mr. Hoke. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I agree that this is not a simple area of the law; that's for sure. I have to express some disappointment with my friend and colleague from Michigan, that either through paranoia or fear of what I was going to ask, he didn't find it possible to yield me time for a question.
But the question that I wanted to pose — and I'm sorry that Mr. Jones is no longer here — is it seems to me that, according to his testimony, he was under the impression, or is under the impression, continues to be under the impression, that this bill actually extends the 20 years of additional benefit, this new property that we are creating, that that new property is actually bestowed upon the author, not upon the current copyright holder. And I don't, obviously, have the transcript of the testimony yet — and Mr. Jones isn't here to testify again for us, but that was the clear impression that I got from his testimony. Can anybody either confirm that or — yes?
Mr. Patry. Of course, I couldn't confirm what he
Mr. Hoke. Just what your recollection of it was.
Mr. Patry. I wouldn't characterize it one way or the other. I think a fair question would be
Mr. Hoke. Well, can anyone else on the panel? I mean, I was under the clear — I clearly was under the impression that Mr. Jones believed that this new property benefit would go to the authors.
Mr. MoORHEAD. He has his own production company.
Mr. HOKE. No, but he was talking about — he named jazz artists from the twenties and thirties that have made — that have written two or three or four songs, and upon whose family — or whose families depend upon the royalty.