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22 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
Mr. McCann. Tell me this now, how many men did that displace*
Mr. Kahane. I can't be accurate in this statement, but at that council meeting it was said that 350 men were involved.
Mr. McCann. Does that mean that the 350 men would lose their jobs ?
Mr. Kahane. No ; not necessarily.
Mr. McCann. What would they do ?
Mr. Kahane. The erection of sets was done by the carpenters in the mills usually, and most of the construction work is still done in the mill — the construction of sets — but there are times when there are sets constructed on the stages, and that work was gi^^en to the lATSE set erectors.
Mr. McCann. Then so far as the construction of the sets is concerned
Mr. Kahane. That was all left with the carpenters.
Mr. McCann. That was left with the carpenters?
Mr. Kahane. Yes, sir.
Mr. McCann. But when it came to putting up those sets on location
Mr. Kahane. On a stage, that was awarded to the set erectors of the lATSE.
Mr. McCann. But they had never done that before it was given to them by this council?
Mr. Kahane. That is correct.
Mr. ISIcCann. Tell me, who represented the industry in that meeting in Miami?
Mr. Kahane. Well, I think I can recall all. Mr. Eric Johnston came there from New York; Mr. E. J. INIannix. of IMetro; Y. Frank Freeman, of Paramount; Mr. Maurice Benjamin and myself represented the producers. Mr. Kichard Walsh was also present at that conference. I think I have named them all, I may have omitted some.
Mr. McCann. Was there any representative of the carpenters there?
Mr. Kahane. Mr. Hutcheson was there.
Mr. McCann. Mr. Hutcheson was there ?
INIr. Kahane. He is the international president.
Mr. McCann. I mean locally — was there anyone from the carpenters that was in this meeting?
Mr. Kahane. I don't think so. Mr. Sorrell happened to be there in Miami at the time, but I don't remember seeing Mr. Skelton, the business representative of the carpenters, at the time.
Mr. McCann. Will you proceed with your statement?
Mr. Kahane. The carpenters, however, were unwilling to accept the provisions of the award referred to above, despite their original agreement to be bound by the decision. A group of producers' representatives accordingly flew to Miami, where the A. F. of L. executive council was again in session, to secure the assistance of the council in requiring performance of the award.
The discussion with the council at this session demonstrated that there was complete knowledge and agreement b}' everyone present that the phrase "erection of sets on stages'' meant construction of such sets. With that unequivocal imderstanding and with full knowledge of the effect of this directive on the carpenters, the council told the