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MOTION PICTURE COMMISSION. 71 Dr. PIoAVE. The management of the national board of censorship is in the hands of the general committee composed of representatives of these various organizations that I read. Mr, Towner. The 24 that you named? Dr. Howe. The 24; it has been enlarged to 30. I think. Now the secretarial work is done by four men. Mr. TowNEB. Of course, I do not suppose you mean by that that the 24 have the practical management day by day? Dr. Howe, No ; the day-by-day business is done by the secreiaries. Mr. Towner, That is what I supposed. The Chairman. There are four secretaries? Dr. HoAVE. Yes, sir. The Chairman. Who are they? Dr. Howe. Mr. Orrin G. Cocks, who was, up. to the time he came with the national board, secretary of the Federation of Churches in New York, an organization whicli included a large number of the churches which were organized into a federation for the purpose of doing social work; he is one of the secretaries. Another secretary is Mr. McGuire. who, up to the time he came with the national board, was connected with the Charity Organization Society: Mr. Barrett, who is a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania: and a Mr. Mason, a graduate of Tufls College. Mr. John Collier Avas one ol the secretaries of the national board of censorship, and I am the chairman. Mr. Toavner. I Avould not Avant you to understand that I or any member of the committee desire to discredit or be unduly inquisitive about it. Dr, Howe, That is what we are here for, Mr, ToAVKER, But here is the situation: There are very many of us who believe some form of censorship is necessary. If this national board of censorship is doing everything that is required, then, of course, it AAould be unncessary for the Government to do it, Hoav- ever, it Avill be necessary for us to understand, as thoroughly as Ave can, just Avhat this board is and hoAv it operates. Will you be kind enough to tell us the salaries of these secretaries? Dr. HoAVE. I think I can tell you. Mr. Cocks gets $2,500 a year; Mr. McGuire gets $2,.500; and the two other men get approximately $1,500 a year; and Mr. John Collier got $111 a month, about $1,200 a year. Mr. Towner. You say this amount is paid bv the manufacturers of films? Dr. Howe, Yes, Mr. Toavner. Who are they? Dr. HoAVE. The General Film Co.. the T'niversal Film Co.. and the Mutual Film Co. Mr. Toavner. Three? Dr. HoAVE. Yes; I think there i>- one other contributor, the Warner Feature Co.: I tliirik tliey have contributed to some extent. We do not make that a condition ]')recedent f<!r vicAving the films: tliat is, that they contribute to the bi)ar(l. As a matter of fact we see a great many pictures and do everyt!)iiig we can. Mr. Toavner. As I understand ii. anyone can ()ffer pictures to be censored ?