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78 MOTION PICTUKE COMMISSION. Mr. Towner. And the board, of course, will determine whether oi not they are educational in their nature. The very fact that thej consider that that character of film may be presented to children shows that they must consider it educational in its nature to a child, which I am disposed to absolutely deny. Dr. Howe. Well, it is impossible to lay down a hard and fast rule. What did happen subsequent to the passage of that rule was that the board refused to pass any films which fell in the category of the white-slave traffic. Mr. Towner. I am very glad to hear that. Dr. Howe. If you eliminate the love motive from the drama you eliminate the drama. Referring to your question whether we should not begin to reproduce the old dramatic stories, I might say that a good many of those stories have been put on the stage; Camille, for instance, has been put on the stage for 50 j^ears. Mr. Towner. Not for children. Dr. Howe. And the Merchant of Venice. However, that has been censored in Chicago, I understand, because it was a reflection upon the Jew. Now, there are a great variety of stories which have been put upon the stage in theaters Avhich some people would stop if used m a motion-picture show. Mr. Tiiacher, Arc you not wandering away from the subject? You were talking about the white-slave traffic and now you have gone to the matter of the Merchant of Venice, and you say it has been censored in Chicago because it is a reflection upon the Jew. The questions that have been asked Avere directed toAvard the use of films in depicting the white-slave traffic. Dr. Howe. The gentleman asked me if I did not think the national board should direct the production of plays along the lines of street .â– icenes and dramas, and I said that the dramas themselves contain ill these motives of love, hate, and sex. and probably always will. Mr. Towner. I was very much interested to know what the views of your organization were in regard to white slavery and similar subjects, and I am very glad to know you are going to put that in the record, Dr, Howe. The board says that is a very delicate subject, and that they can not lay down in advance any hard and fast rule, but that "the board will give its sui)p( rt to those subjects and films which present facts in a sincere, dramatic way, leading to repression or to the removal of the causes of commercial or subrosa prostitution." The Chairman. Dr. Carter, who had not concluded when we ad- journed last Tuesday was promised to be heard first this evening. He was not here when we began this evening, but we will hear him now, and he says he will be able to conclude in 15 minutes. ADDITIONAL STATEMENT OF REV. WILLIAM CARTER. Dr. Carter. Mr, Chairman and gentlemen of the conmiittee, at the time of adjournment last Tuesday I had gotten as far as the standards of our national board of censors. I wish to read you the standards of the board, which will, to a great extent, I think, clear up a great deal of what Dr. Howe has