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142 MOTION PICTURE COMMISSION. Mr. ScHECHTER. With regard to this point? Mr. Towner. About the nuiiiber necessary to be passed upon. Mr. ScHECHTER. I Can not see why the manufacturers should be subject to the censor of one man. Canon Chase says that one man may pass upon it and that then the advisory board might consider it, and that any one of the members of the commission could say, " Yes " ©r " No." Mr. Towner. I was not asking you about that. Have you the figures as to the number of films which would be censored ? Mr. ScHECHTER. I gave you those figures before. On the originals it would amount to about $12,500 and on the duplicates, if you made a charge of 50 cents, it Avould amount to about $125,000 to $150,000. Mr. Towner. Are the numbers in the record ? Mr. ScHECHTER. The exact number of films ? Mr. Tow^NER. The films and duplicates. Mr. ScHECHTER. I Said that there would be about 4.000 duplicates a week. Mr. Towner. I understood that was only an estimate. Mr. ScHECHTER. It is an estimate. It is impossible to calculate the amount, because each company might put out one reel more or less. The Chairman. Four thousand a week for tlie three manufactur- ing companies? Mr. ScHECHTER. I am considering now all of the business. Dr. Chase. It is likely to increase as the years go oh. Mr. ScHECHTER. At present 4.000 duplicates go out each week. The Chairman. About 12,000 originals? Mr. ScHECHTER. Ycs, sir. Dr. Chase. $104,000 a year? Mr. ScHECHTER. Ycs, sir. I said $125,000, allowing for an in- crease; $12,000 from the originals. I figured 200 original reels and about 225 reels a week, at $1 a reel, which makes about $12,000. Dr. Chase. We were influenced in making it 50 cents for the du- plicates and $1 for the originals by the experience in Ohio. The Ohio law calls for $1 for every reel whether original or not. It was found that this produced an unnecessarily large income in Ohio. It seemed to us that the expense was really on the viewing of the films, and we tliought the expense should be put there, but (hen we thought it was necessary to attach a seal of motion-i)icture film to each du- plicate, Ave could not ascertain the amount of expense that there would be to this seal. Some think it would cost as much as 20 cents a film, and others Avent as high as 50 cents or 60 cents to put the seal on the film. Therefore it was very diilicult to fix upon the proper amount for the fee for a duplicate. Section 15 was added to the bill so as to enable the conmiission in case the 50-cent fee Avas not large enough to pay the expenses of the seal and other expenses to charge another fee for the seal itself. The provisions of this bill indicate very clearly that there is no desire to overtax trade in any way, simply to include the necessary expenses of the conunission. ]Mr. Powers. Talking about tlie du]>licale films, if any of these companies should change their films and send out fihns ditferent from that Avhich had been approved by the board, Avhat penalty does this bill carry for such a violation?