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180 MOTION PICTURE COMMISSION, Mr. ToAVNF.n. T inojiiit the seven thnt (rive the fii^t reproductions. Mr. Jinvf.AWSKi. Tlmt >\u)\\ all tiie pictures from the dili'erent exchantres? ^^r. TowNEU. Yes. Dr. Cn.\sE. I want to refer to the section of the bill that I was unable to find yesterday, if I may do so. I wanted to refer also to somethino; that he said, but as my time is very short I was goin^ to leave thai until I di.scus.sed this with the committee. May I take that time ( The CiiAiK.MAN. Yes. Dr. Chase. Are you retiring now, Mr, Brylawski ? Mr. Bkylaanski. Yes, sir; I am. Dr. Ctiase. ^Fay T just ask you this question? You said that the origin of the censorship board Avas due to tlie exciiemejit with refer- ence to the Jeffries-Johnson prize fight? Mr, Brylawski. That is as far as my memoiy goes. Dr. Chase. jSIay I just refi'esh youi- memory, and then see if you still stand by your statement, because I do not tliiidv you care to have an incori'ect statement in tlie I'ecord. My impression is that the Jeffries-Johnson lijjht occurred in ffune. 1011. Mr. l^RYLAwsKi. I believe that is right. Xo: July 1. 11)10. Dr. Chase. The testimonv shows that the board was formed in 1909. Mr. Bryt-awski. "Well, tliat might hn\e Ikmmi so. biit it was ai)out that time that there was this agitation al)out those tight pictures. Dr. Chase. And the fact is that those pictures were show-n in New York, and all over the coinitry. aiul Mayor (iaynor said there was no law in New '^'ork to preAcut it. Mr. J^ryeawskt. 1 do not know. T did not go into the motion- picture b-usincss until 1909. Dr. Chase. I did not thiidc you would care to have that go into the record. Mr. J^RYLAwsKE The fii-st knowledge T had of the ln-ai'il of censor- ship was after that fight. Dr. Chase. But you do remembn- that tlu> pictui-es wci-e shown, and that they were not snbmitie(i to the board of ciMisorship? Mr. liRvi-AV.SKi. I do not l)elieve there was a board of censoi-ship at that 1 ime. Di-. Chase. Ibit their own testimonv is that it \va> oi-gani/.ed in .1909. Mr. Brylaavsivi. But T do not believe they Avere working. I do not thirdc their woi'k connnenced until 1911— their true W(n-k'. It may have l)een oi'ganized. but they were jus! as gi-ecn al>out it as Ave Avere Avhen we oi'iginally started. When moving j/ii'ture- wei-e oi-iginally started we had dark theaters— little dingy places. It has only been since li)10. 1911. and 191i> that we conuueiiced to reali/.e that they Avere not Avanted— iu)t desired. We are iu)w l)uilditig ])ala('es for theaters. The first theater that you remeirber was a little bit of a hole in a stoiv. Di-. Chase. My menioi-y is that the board of censoi-ship Avas in acti\e operation. AV(^ ti-ied our best to stop them \n New York, but in spite of all we did with Mayor Gaynoi' and the board of censorship tlie pictures Avere shoAvn.