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COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY 135 Mr. Tavenner. In other words, it was either the latter part of 1944 or the latter part of 1945 or early 1946? Mr. Hayden. Or early 1946, yes, sir. Mr. Tavenner. That you met Steve Nelson ? Mr. Hayden. Yes. Mr. Tavenner. Regardless of which may be the correct date, "will you tell the committee the circumstances under which you met Nelson? Mr. Hayden. It was at a party, or rather a group get-together or gathering in someone's home in Oakland or in San Francisco one evening. There were 10 or 15 people sitting around. Nelson was one of them. I remember being introduced to him because he was supposed to be an outstanding figure. Mr. Tavenner. An outstanding figure in what capacity? Mr. Hayden. In their world. I don't remember exactly what I was told lie had done that made him outstanding, but I remember Tomp- kins saying to me in the car, "Steve Nelson will be there. He is quite a guy," or something like that. Mr. Tavenner. Do you know whether he was the organizer for the Communist Party for Alameda County at that particular time ? Mr. Hayden. I didn't know that. Mr. Tavenner. Can you recall in whose home you met Nelson ? Mr. Hayden. Usually it was at the home of Tompkins' brother-in- law, a doctor whose last name slips me this minute. I can't think of it, Mr. Tavenner. Is it Dr. Lyman ? Mr. Hayden. Dr. Lyman is right. Frequently when I was in San Francisco visiting Tompkins we would go see Tompkins' sister and brother-in-law. Mr. Tavenner. Is that Dr. Ellwood W. Lyman? Mr. Hayden. I know it is Ellwood. Mr. Tavenner. Do you remember anything that took place at that meeting attended by Steve Nelson? Mr. Hayden. I vaguely recall that they asked if I would say a few words about Yugoslavia, and I did. What I said was in the same vein as what I have said here today except at that time I was fresh from the place and was talking on that basis, you might say. Mr. Tavenner. How long did you remain as the guest of Captain Tompkins ? Mr. Hayden. I think 5 or 6 days. Mr. Tavenner. Then you returned to the east coast? Mr. Hayden. Then I returned to Washington, D. C. Mr. Tavenner. When you returned to Washington did you bring any Communist Party literature or documents with you ? Mr. Hayden. I may have. I think every time I ever saw Tompkinn I would end up with, if not an armful, at least a handful of pamphlet!', so I probably had some with me that I was going to read in the plane or carry with me; I don't know. Mr. Tavenner. Will you give the committee your best opinion as to the effect of this trip upon you, that is, the trip when you were the guest again of Tompkins? Mr. Hayden. Well, I was at that time, I think, trying to look ahead, figure out what I wanted to do after the war. 1 didn't know if I wanted to go back to Hollywood or not. I felt a sort of reluctance to accepting what seemed to me to be the very lucrative and easy life