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COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY 143 position of the Conference of Studio Unions, and I was told to associ- ate with these people. Mr. Tavenner. Who were working for the same purpose ? Mr. Hayden. It coincided. I would like to say at this point, there were a great, great many people involved here. I don't know what percentage of the actors and actresses involved were a long, long, long way from being Communists in any sense of the word, so far as I know. Mr. Tavenner. You have given a list of the persons connected with that movement to the investigators of this committee, have you not? Mr. Hayden. Yes, I have; to the best of my recollection. Mr. Tavenner. Are there any of that group whom you can identify as members of the Communist Party, to your knowledge ? I am not asking you for names of people generally who were with you in this project, unless they were known to you to be members of the Com- munist Party. Mr. Hayden. I understand. I wouldn't hesitate to say Karen Mor- ley, inasmuch as in 1947, a long time after I had completely severed any and all connections with any form of Communist activities or endeavor, she came to me and asked me to come back, so I certainly think it is safe to assume that she was a member. Over and above that, it would have to get into the realm of conjecture, which, frankly, I am somewhat doubtful of. Mr. Tavenner. I don't want you to go into the field of conjecture. Mr. Hayden. No. (Representative Doyle returns to hearing room.) Mr. Tavenner. Now I want to ask you a few more questions about this meeting which you were directed to attend in carrying out your Communist Party obligations. You said there were 50 or more peo- ple present, as I understood you ? Mr. Hayden. There were 60 or TO people there. Mr. Tavenner. Did that group narrow down to a comparatively few who actually functioned? Mr. Hayden. I would say there was a nucleus that would attend meetings more regularly. When there were gatherings to see what could be done, there were certain people who would appear more regu- larly. There were people on the periphery, on the edge, who would be there sometimes; and other people were there more regularly. Mr. Tavenner. How frequently did you meet to work on that enterprise ? Mr. Hayden. I would say once or twice a week. Mr. Tavenner. Did Karen Morley meet with you? Mr. Hayden. Yes. Mr. Tavenner. Where were these meetings held ? Mr. Hayden. Some were held at Karen Morley's house. Some were held at a house owned by a man named Morris Carnovsky, who, I might say, was never present. And others were held at homes which I only knew at that time by address. (Representative Jackson returns to hearing room.) Mr. Tavenner. Are you acquainted with a person by the name of Lloyd Gough? Mr. Hayden. Yes. Mr. Tavenner. G-o-u-g-h, is that the correct spelling of the name ? Mr. Hayden. I think it is.