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L58 COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mr. Hayden. He is a man who had led a rather spectacular career in the South Seas, in Europe, in Paris, as an artist and writer, and he attempted to make the schooner pay and the schooner never paid. Mr. Velde. You mean by taking passengers ? Mr. Hayden. College boys in the summer; yes. Mr. Velde. You said he was one of those who influenced you to be- come a member of the Communist Party ? Mr. Hayden. He forged the first link, you might say. Mr. Velde. Did you attend any other parties or meetings while you were in San Francisco? Mr. Hayden. Yes; I may have, because all the time I was there there were meetings going on, group gatherings and get-togethers. Mr. Velde. I mean in the schooner ? Mr. Hayden. Yes. People would come in the evenings and sit and talk. Mr. Velde. Do you remember any of those people ? Mr. Hayden. I remember one man who was apparently a close friend of Tompkins. I subsequently heard he was in disrepute with the party and had broken with it. He was a merchant seaman in the war. I would remember his name if I heard it. Mr. Velde. Did you have occasion to meet Bernadette Doyle? Mr. Hayden. Not to my knowledge. Mr. Velde. Louise Bransten? Mr. Hayden. No. Mr. Velde. Do you know for a fact that Louise Bransten was not present at the meeting at the time you went to Dr. Lyman's home? Mr. Hayden. She may have been. I know nothing about the name. It means nothing to me one way or the other. Mr. Velde. That is all. Mr. Wood. General Kearney. Mr. Kearney. Some few days ago there was testimony given by Larry Parks, and as I recollect he definitely stated that no writer could color a picture for propaganda purposes. Do you agree with that? Mr. Hayden. I certainly do. Mr. Kearney. That no writer could ? Mr. Hayden. At the present time, with the feeling the way it is, I don't see how he could. Mr. Kearney. How about the past ? Mr. Hayden. I think there would be more chance in the past. Mr. Kearney. It has been done in the past ? Mr. Hayden. I think it has. Mr. Kearney. Do you know if any of the 10 convicted Hollywood actors have again been employed by the motion-picture industry? Mr. Hayden. I have no idea. I assume they are not. Mr. Kearney. I understood you to say in the meetings you attended there was discussion, indirectly, of the overthrow of the Government by force and violence? Mr. Hayden. There was a discussion of what they called dialectics. Mr. Kearney. Were any well-known leaders of the Communist Party ever in attendance at any of the meetings you attended? Mr. Hayden. Not to my recollection.