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200 COMMUNISM EST MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mr. Lees. You can consult the- Well, I—what I was trying to point out, Mr. Doyle, was the fact that the committee could find this information, and that drawing this information from me—the right to find out what the reasons were—and I found out instead of definite reasons I had a feeling that this was something that required my standing on the fifth amend- ment, which I did. In talking that way previously, I merely want to say this was no information I felt that was being withheld from the committee's examination that way. Mr. Doyle. I can understand that; but now will you answer my question? You say it is a matter of public record. Where? As a member of this committee and fellow citizen, I am not familiar with where your name has appeared with your associates. Apparently your name appeared with your associate writers voluntarily on your part. You're rather proud of them, of the fact that you have made a great success in the profession, and I compliment you on your suc- cess. But where may I go if I want to find that record, please? You're not ashamed of the names of those associates, I presume, or they wouldn't be with your permission a matter of public record. Mr. Lees. I do decline to answer it because I believe that's the same question I declined to answer before, Mr. Doyle. Mr. Doyle. Well, very frankly, I figured it was an honest-to-God way, my question, to ask you a frank, open question. I'm not trying to trap you. But when you voluntarily allow your name to be asso- ciated in the public record on a film or script and tell us that it is a public record, why then you hesitate to tell us the names of those people or where the record is, I don't savvy. Mr. Lees. M v . Doyle, I think you just answered the question your- self. You said v here the names can be found. Mr. Doyle. Well, where can they be found ? Mr. Lees. You just said so. Mr. Doyle. Where ? Mr. Lees. It's in the record at the moment, I believe, if you want to reexamine the question you just asked. Mr. Doyle. What record ? Mr. Lees. I think you answered the question. Mr. Doyle. I don't know any record. I haven't seen any record where your associates are listed. Mr. Lees. Well, Mr. Doyle, I do feel that I have answered the ques- tion as clearly as I can, and I have stood on my privilege, and that's the best I can do. Mr. Kearney. If you were given the names of those associates, would you admit them ? Mr. Lees. I have claimed the privilege on that reason. Mr. Wood. Further questions by counsel? Mr. Tavenner. Yes, sir. You state that you refuse to answer because to do so might tend to incriminate you. Do you mean that to answer the question as to who was your associate in writing any of these words, these productions, that to divulge that name might subject you to criminal prosecution of some kind ? Mr. Lees. I explained my reasons when I first declined to answer the question.