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COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY 459 Mr. Tavenner. What was the nature of your employment in the Berg-Allen Berg Agency? Miss Winters. I was secretary there also. Mr. Tavenner. To whom were you secretary ? Miss Winters. Meta Reis Rosenberg. Mr. Tavenner. What were the circumstances under which you be- came employed at Berg-Allen Berg? Miss Winters. I had formerly worked for Mrs. Rosenberg for a period at Paramount, and when she left Paramount and went to Berg-Allen Berg she asked me to come and work for her there. Mr. Tavenner. What was the nature of your duties as secretary to Mrs. Rosenberg ? Miss Winters. Well, general secretarial work, taking dictation, answering telephones, and taking care of the office when she was out at the studios. Mr. Tavenner. While you were employed there, did you become acquainted with a sea captain by the name of Warwick Tompkins? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the ground that it might tend to incriminate me in violation of the fifth amendment to the Constitution. Mr. Tavenner. Will you state your reason again? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer on the ground that it might tend to incriminate me in violation of the fifth amendment to the Consti- tution. Mr. Tavenner. What do you mean by "in violation of the fifth amendment" ? Miss Winters. I understand the fifth amendment to protect a per- son from testifying against himself. Mr. Tavenner. In other words, you feel that a truthful answer to that question might subject you to criminal prosecution? That is the ground upon which I understand that you refuse to answer the question; is that correct? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the same grounds. Mr. Tavenner. Mr. Sterling Hayden testified before the committee that he met you through Warwick Tompkins and, quoting his testi- mony, "One day she said to me, 'Why don't you stop talking and join the Communist Party?'" and as a result, Sterling Hayden testified that he did join the Communist Party. Did you have anything to do with recruiting Sterling Hayden into the Communist Party ? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the ground that it might tend to incriminate me. Mr. Tavenner. Are you now a member of the Communist Party? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the ground that it might tend to incriminate me. Mr. Tavenner. Have you at any time been a member of the Com- munist Party? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the ground that it might tend to incriminate me. Mr. Tavenner. Are you affiliated in any way with the Hollywood Arts, Sciences, and Professions Council ? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the ground that it may tend to incriminate me. 81595—51—pt. 2 11