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460 COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mr. Tavenner. I have no further questions. Mr. Wood. Mr. Walter. Mr. Walter. No questions. Mr. Wood. Mr. Doyle. Mr. Doyle. No questions. Mr. Wood. Mr. Frazier. Mr. Frazier. No questions. Mr. Wood. Mr. Moulder. Mr. Moulder. Where are you now employed, if you are employed? Miss Winters. I am not now employed. Mr. Moulder. When were you last employed ? Miss Winters. April 10, 1951. Mr. Moulder. By whom were you then employed? Miss Winters. Horizon Pictures, Inc. Mr. Moulder. That is all. Mr. Wood. Mr. Velde. Mr. Velde. How long have you lived in Hollywood, or in the area of Hollywood? Miss Winters. I think since either 1936 or 1937, to the best of my knowledge. Mr. Velde. Up to the present time ? Miss Winters. Yes. Mr. Velde. During that time, were you aware that there was a Com- munist movement on in Hollywood ? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me. Mr. Velde. How would it tend to incriminate you to know that there was a Communist movement in Hollywood ? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me. Mr. Velde. Have you ever known Communists in Hollywood? Miss Winters. I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me. Mr. Velde. That is all. Mr. Wood. Mr. Kearney. Mr. Kearney. No questions. Mr. Wood. Mr. Jackson. Mr. Jackson. Miss Winters, during the period of time you were employed in the several studios as a secretary, how was the decision made as to whom you were going to work for? Was it a secretarial pool, or did you go to a studio with the understanding you would work for a particular person? Miss Winters. Usually a secretarial pool. Mr. Jackson. For whom did you work during the time you were at Universal Studios? Miss Winters. That would take quite a while. I started out work- ing in the stenographic department, in the pool. During my period of employment there I worked for Mr. Cochran, who was president of the company, when he was on the coast. I worked for a casting director. Mr. Jackson. Who was the casting director? Miss Winters. Dan Kelly. And I worked for the head of the studio and his assistant.