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468 COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Now, did you attend a meeting at the home of Karen Morley as described by Mr. Lawrence ? Mr. Gough (after conferring with his counsel). I decline to answer on the grounds previously stated. Mr. Tavenner. Were you living in Hollywood in 1947? Mr. Gough. Yes, sir. Mr. Tavenner. In January of 1947 did you attend a meeting at the home of Waldo and Mary Salt which was attended also by Paul Perlin. P-e-r-1-i-n ? Mr. Gough. I decline to answer on the grounds previously stated. Mr. Tavenner. Are you now a member of the Communist Party ? Mr. Gough. I decline to answer on the grounds previously stated. Mr. Tavenner. Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party ? Mr. Gough. I decline to answer on the grounds previously stated. Mr. Tavenner. I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Wood. Mr. Walter. Mr. Walter. Mr. Gough, you refused to answer questions as to whether you were a member of the Theater Arts Committee. Why? Mr. Gough. I feel that this question is merely a pursuit of the pre- vious questions to which it refers. Mr. Walter. Have you ever been a member of that committee? Mr. Gough. I must decline to answer the question on the grounds I stated previously. Mr. Walter. That committee is not listed as a Communist or Com- munist-front organization ? Mr. Gough. I believe it is, sir. Mr. Walter. Are you a member of the Elks ? Mr. Gough. I am sorry to say I am not. Mr. Walter. Are you a member of the Knights of Columbus? Mr. Gough. No, sir. Mr. Walter. What organizations do you belong to ? Mr. Gough. I decline to answer on the grounds I previously stated, the first and fifth amendments. Mr. Walter. You didn't hesitate a moment in answering the ques- tion as to whether or not you were a member of the Elks or of the Knights of Columbus. Mr. Gough. It is my opinion, sir, my firm conviction, that I can be incriminated through membership in certain organizations and am free to belong to other organizations. Mr. Walter. What crime could you possibly be charged with if you were a member of the Theater Arts Committee ? Mr. Gough. I am sure my counsel could state this much more clearly than I could. Mr. Walter. After all, it is your answer. You declined to answer the question on the ground you felt it might tend to incriminate you. I am asking you what crime you feel you might be charged with if you were a member of that organization ? Mr. Gough (after conferring with his counsel). The Eighty-second and the Eighty-first Congresses, and previous Congresses, have both passed legislation which would tend to incriminate members of cer- tain organizations.