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COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY 1429 Mr. Ashe. Herb and Minna Klein. This Herb Klein, by the way, is not to be confused with the editor of the New Theatre magazine. This is Herb and Minna Klein. I believe Herb Klein had been a correspondent for UP over in Germany before Hitler's rise to power. I believe his immediate interest in the Communist Party when he came in was his fear of the threat of fascism. Minna Klein came in, I believe, at the same time. I understand later that he taught out at Los Angeles City College as an instructor, I believe, in journalism. I am not sure on that point. Mr. Tavenner. Do you know the spelling of his last name? Mr. Ashe. K-1-e-i-n. Mr. Tavenner. How many meetings did he and his wife attend, to the best of your recollection ? Mr. Ashe. Well they attended, so far as I know, every meeting that I attended. I would say at that time I was attending at least half of these meetings because, as I say, there was no leadership in there that had had any experience in the party, and for that reason I was devot- ing a considerable amount of my time to them, including meeting with them after their meetings were over, in my home. I might add that most of these meetings were held in my home. Mr. Tavenner. Do you know in what business Mr. Klein is engaged now, or how he is employed ? Mr. Ashe. No ; I do not. Mr. Tavenner. Will you give us the name of others, please ? Mr. Ashe. Lucy Stander, who was at that time the wife of J. Stand- er, also known as Lionel Stander. He was a character actor, I believe, in Hollywood. He, however, was not in the unit for any great length of time. I recall distinctly that he was brought in and a very short time later was transferred out. I don't know the reason for the trans- fer. 1 think it was arranged directly between Stander and the county office of the party. However, his wife remained in one of these pro- fessional units. Mr. Tavenner. You are definite in your statement, however, that Lionel Stander was a member of this group ? Mr. Ashe. Lionel Stander was definitely a member of this group. He was transferred in, and I handled the transfer. Of that I am positive. Mr. Tavenner. Do you recall from what place he was transferred ? Mr. Ashe. I believe New York City. Mr. Tavenner. You referred to a person by the name of Hull a few moments ago. Mr. Ashe. That's Morgan Hull. Mr. Tavenner. Is that Hull or Hall ? Mr. Ashe. Hull, H-u-1-1. Mr. Tavenner. Did I understand that Morgan Hull was a member of this group ? Mr. Ashe. That's correct. I recruited him. He was one of the first members. Mr. Tavenner. What was his employment? Mr. Ashe. I believe at the time I recruited him he was a reporter for the Los Angeles Times. I think he shortly afterward lost his job. I am not too clear about that. Mr. Tavenner. Was his wife a member, also, or not ?