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1480 COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mr. Doyle. Those were children then of junior and senior high- school age, I understand ? Mrs. Ashe. Yes; they were. Mr. Doyle. How did they pick the young people to join the YCL? Where did they come from ? Mrs. Ashe. They picked themselves. They went out and recruited members just exactly the way the Communist Party did. Mr. Doyle. Did they have any dues? Mrs. Ashe. Yes; they had dues. Mr. Doyle. I think that's all. Mr. Wood. Mr. Jackson. Mr. Jackson. Mrs. Ashe, I believe you mentioned in the course of your testimony that you made several trips to Malibu ? Mrs. Ashe. Yes. Mr. Jackson. Have you identified those persons whom you called upon in Malibu ? Mrs. Ashe. Yes, I have. J. Stander had a home down there, and I collected from Jay when he had his home in Malibu. Lionel Stander. Mr. Jackson. Previous testimony before the committee has been introduced to indicate that there was a tithe system of payment in addition to the monthly dues, which was sometimes based upon the weekly or monthly earnings of the individual. Mrs. Ashe. Yes; that's correct. Mr. Jackson. Did these individuals whom you contacted in this regard pay on that basis? Mrs. Ashe. I don't know, because I didn't know them as Communist Party members. I only knew them as people who were sympathetic to the party and were willing to contribute to the party on a monthly basis. Mr. Jackson. During the period of time that you acted in that capacity can you give the committee on estimate of the amount of money that you collected ? I realize it would have to be a very rough approximation. Mrs. Ashe. It would. In fact, it is virtually impossible to do it. I would like to be helpful, but I couldn't. Mr. Jackson. Was it in the hundreds or was it in the thousands ? Mrs. Ashe. I would say in the hundreds. Mr. Jackson. In the hundreds of dollars ? Mrs. Ashe. Yes. Mr. Jackson. I understand, and it has been reiterated time and time again, that there is no such thing as independent judgment, so far as a Communist is concerned, or so far as the Communist Party is concerned. Mrs. Ashe. That is correct. The individual counts for nothing, everything is the mass. The individual as an individual is not impor- tant. I would like to illustrate that, if I may. Mr. Jackson. Please do. Mrs. Ashe. This, incidentally, has to do with another disciplinary committee meeting. We had Dr. Tashjian to contend with, as you have heard, and he was a little worried because some of the married couples in the party were in the same units, and he contended that they went home and discussed everything and came back and voted as a block. So he tried to put through a ruling that married couples