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1570 COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY been benefited by having such a fine opportunity for, shall I say, schoolroom or classroom or university learning as contradistinguished from some of us that haven't had that benefit. Then I noticed you said you taught at Los Angeles City College from 1938 to 1941 Mr. Klein. That is right. Mr. Doyle. Then at El Camino Junior College for a time. Now, what did you instruct in? Mr. Klein. Chiefly in the field of English composition and litera- ture. I also taught the German language. Mr. Doyle. Are you familiar with the Federal statute under which this committee operates by the instruction of the United States Con- gress ? Mr. Klein. Well, I believe I am somewhat familiar with it. I probably am not an expert on it. Mr. Doyle. Give me your opinion of what statute you think we are operating under in this hearing. Mr. Klein. I think it would be presumptuous on my part to give you my opinion of a statute which you are already intimately ac- quainted with. (At this point Representative Francis E. Walter left the room.) Mr. Doyle. What I mean, Mr. Klein—I can see you are a greatly read gentleman, and I just assume that you are perfectly familiar, or at least generally familiar, with the wording of the text of the statute—it is very brief—under which we operate. I don't mean to embarrass you at all. Mr. Klein. It is no embarrassment. You will please correct me. It is my understanding that the statute is one that empowers this com- mittee to investigate and make recommendations regarding subversive activities in the United States. (At this point Representative Charles E. Potter left the room.) Mr. Doyle. That is correct. Mr. Klein. Thank you. Mr. Doyle. You would feel, I am sure, that that is a worthy objec- tive and a high purpose and a necessary purpose, wouldn't you? Mr. Klein. Yes; I certainly do. In the full sense of the word "subversive." Mr. Doyle. And in the full sense of the word "subversive," I sup- pose you agree with Mr. Webster ? Mr. Klein. Well, I am more or less obliged to. Mr. Doyle. Assuming then that you even learn from him, the same as all the rest of us do, I would take an occasion to look up the meaning of the word "subversive" and the word "subvert" by Mr. Webster. I presume you haven't had occasion to look at the meaning of the word recently. Mr. Klein. Yes; I have. Mr. Doyle. What did you find? Mr. Klein. Well, if I am not mistaken, it means to undermine and to ruin utterly. Mr. Doyle. That's right, and that is only part of the definition. Can you give us the balance of it, if you remember? Mr. Klein. I'm sorry, I break down at that point. Mr. Doyle. Let me add then, "to overturn; to overthrow; to under- mine the morals, the allegiance, or the faith of; to corrupt." Do you remember reading that, too?