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1572 COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY as a member of the Communist Party. I will grant you tliat is true. No question about that. You see, we have had testimony before our committee that certain Communist cells have even discussed among themselves the matter of getting arms and ammunition in parts of this country to participate in the forceful revolution which is advo- cated by the Communist Party. Have you ever heard of that being advocated ? Mr. Klein. Have I ever heard of what being advocated? Mr. Doyle. The forceful revolution by the Communist Party in the United States. Mr. Klein. Have I ever heard the Communist Party advocating forceful revolution in the United States ? Mr. Doyle. Well, I will leave the question the way you asked it. Mr. Klein. Well, I am trying to—excuse me. 1 am not trying to ask you questions. I am just trying to understand what it is that I am to answer. Mr. Doyle. Well, I will repeat it, simplify my question. This com- mittee has had unimpeachable evidence before it that in some parts of the country Communist cells exist in which it has been frankly dis- cussed by the members thereof of ways and means of getting posses- sion of arms and ammunition to use when and if the revolution against the capitalist class came. Now, I assume you are a reasonable Amer- ican citizen Mr. Klein. Well, I have read magazine articles containing that material. Mr. Doyle. Have you ever heard that discussed in the Communist meetings ? Mr. Klein. I decline to answer that on the grounds that this ob- viously is a question designed to entrap me into a situation that is absolutely untenable. I can't answer a question of that sort without subjecting myself to the very kind of incrimination that k is my right and duty to avoid. Mr. Doyle. Of course, I fail to see how a frank statement of what- ever the fact may be by any witness before this committee is going to involve him in prosecution unless, as a matter of fact, his rela- tionship to the Communist Party was such that he actually had been involved in a subversive program. Under the definition that you read by Mr. Webster and which I wrote out for you, do you see any involvement of a witness before this committee of possible fear of incrimination unless he has been engaged in subversive conduct? Mr. Klein. Well, this is an answer to—this is a hypothetical and speculative question. I would like to ask my counsel's advice before answering it. It seems to me it would be going utterly out- side of my realm to answer it. (Witness consults counsel.) Mr. Doyle. Well, I want you to consult your counsel. Mr. Klein. Yes. Mr. Doyle. This committee is always glad to have counsel present. Mr. Klein. I believe that in view of the general context and the time, I must decline to answer that question. Mr. Doyle. Well, of course, you heard our distinguished chairman say that you must not do anything before this committee. Mr. Klein. I apologize. I decline—I respectfully decline to an- swer on the grounds I have already given.