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1662 COMMUXISM IX MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mrs. Abowitz. Am I not speaking loudly enough ? Mr. Tavenner. I didn't hear you. Maybe it was my own fault. Mrs. Abowitz. The attorney general in 1944, I am quite sure, was Robert W. Kenny, a Democrat, who is presently sitting at my left. He is my counsel. Mr. Tavenner. At the time that you served as a member of the California State Central Committee of the Democratic Party were any efforts made by the leadership of the Communist Party to influ- ence your action in obtaining positions of appointment for people, or in any other way to influence the course of action of the committee ? Mrs. Abowitz. I decline to answer that question on previously stated grounds. This is really—I will withdraw that. (The witness conferred with counsel.) Mr. Tavenner. You have indicated Mr. Kenny. May I say something? I received a note, I don't know who from in the audience, and it says, "From televiewers Mr. Wood. Let me see the note, please. Mr. Kenny. Yes. It shows the problem of counsel and the witness. Mr. Wood. In that circumstance I think counsel understands what precaution he should take about it. Mr. Kenny. Yes; I understand. But it is unfortunate that the privity of consultation between attorney and client gets over the net- work. Mr. Wood. I agree with you partly about it. Mr. Kenny. It may be due to my resonant voice. I will try to do the Mr. Wood. I know of no way the committee can control it. It is a matter that counsel and his client can control, if they decide to do so. Mr. Kenny. We may have to consult either further away from the microphones or—I hate to give free legal advice over the air. I think it might violate a canon of ethics of the bar association. Mr. Walter. I am sure you wouldn't object to having people hear your advice. Mr. Kenny. Not at all. Not at standard rates for lawyers. Mr. Tavenner. Are you ready, Mr. Chairman, to resume ? Mr. Wood. Proceed; yes, sir. Mr. Tavenner. Do you recall having consulted John Howard Law- son regarding a suggested change in the bylaws of the constitution for the establishment of new bylaws and constitution for the Holly- wood Democratic Committee? Mrs. Abowitz. Mr. Chairman, I decline to answer that question on previously stated grounds. (At this point Mr. Jackson left the hearing room.) Mr. Tavenner. Were you an active member in the work of the Hollywood Democratic Committee ? Mrs. Abowitz. That organization, I gather from the last couple of days, is now an organization which is considered subversive by this committee. I decline to answer the question on the same grounds. Mr. Tavenner. Have you been connected in your various activities with the People's Educational Center ? Mrs. Abowitz. I decline to answer that question on the same grounds. Mr. Tavenner. There is another organization which I would like to ask you some questions about, one which we have observed has been