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1778 COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mr. Tavenner. That, you say, was the outstanding difference be- tween you ? Mrs. Fleury. That was the outstanding difference. We went around on it several times. Mr. Tavenner. Were you given any literature, both you and the other members of this group ? Mrs. Fleury. I can tell you the literature which I was given. I was given a pamphlet on art, and I was also given a book on art— loaned a book on art, I should say. (At this time Representative Donald L. Jackson returned to the hearing room.) Mr. Tavenner. What was the character of these books on art which you were given to study ? Mrs. Fleury. I can only briefly—I can't go into detail about it be- cause I honestly cannot remember the entire content of the books. The one pamphlet was about the artist David, a French Revolutionary artist whom I consider a very dull painter and not a very good painter, and I could see no reason that he should be considered a great painter simply because he had some connection with the French Revolution. There are many other artists before his time and after his time in France who, in my estimation, were much greater painters, much better painters than he was. The second book Mr. Tavenner. Now, just one moment. Mrs. Fleury. Yes. Mr. Tavenner. Was that particular artist rather sponsored by the Communists as the ideal which should be followed in the practice of your art? Mrs. Fleury. Well, considering that the pamphlet was given to me at a meeting, I would assume that it was one of the artists. Mr. Tavenner. All right. Now, I interrupted you. What did you have in mind to state ? Mrs. Fleury. The book? Mr. Tavenner. Yes. You were discussing the artists from the period of the French Revolution. Mrs. Fleury. Yes, and then I think I was going to mention—you asked me what literature had been given to me. Mr. Tavenner. Yes. Mrs. Fleury. The book. Now, I wish I could—I wish I did remem- ber the name of it. I don't remember the name. I don't remember the author. It was a book on art and the artist's place—now, as I recall—in society. I was to give a report on this book. I found it very difficult to give a report on a book which I did not agree with, whirl) I certainly did not. I made a half-hearted attempt at giving a report, but I absolutely do not remember the name of the book, the author of the book. All I know is that I disagreed with it. Mr. Tavenner. Did you express those beliefs in meetings? Mrs. Fleury. T think that was pretty obvious, Mr. Tavenner. Mr. Tavenner. Will you tell us who met with you in these groups? First, I want to make certain that the persons you have mentioned were persons known to you to be members of the Communist Party, if they were. What persons who were members of the Communist Party met with you in these meetings? Mrs. FleurY. I believe, sir, there are only two persons—I beg your pardon?