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COMMUNISM IN MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY 1785 Mrs. Fleury. That's right. Mr. Walter. Any further questions, Mr. Tavernier ? Mr. Tavenner. No, sir. Mr. Walter. Is there any reason why this witness should not be excused ? Mr. Tavenner. There is not. Mr. Walter. The witness will be excused. I would like to at this time state that the members of the committee have been simply in- undated by the mail and it is going to be a physical impossibility to answer all of the letters that have come to us, but I do want to state publicly that we are very appreciative of this correspondence, 99 percent of which expresses approval of the work being done by this committee. Who is the next witness, Mr. Tavenner? Mr. Tavenner. Mr. Chairman, we had subpenaed the husband of Mrs. Fleury, Mr. Eugene Fleury. He appeared before the commit- tee, and his testimony was in line with that of the previous witness. Mr. Walter. If it is merely cumulative, I think, to save time, we can Mr. Tavenner. It would be, and unless you insist, I would not call him. Mr. Walter. Is he here ? Mr. Tavenner. Yes, sir, he is here, and he may be excused. Mr. Walter. Mr. Fleury is excused from attendance under the sub- pena. Who is your next witness? Mr. Tavenner. Mr. Donald Gordon. Mr. Walter. Mr. Gordon. Will you raise your right hand, please. Do you swear the testi- mony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God ? Mr. Gordon. I do. Mr. Walter. Sit down, please, Mr. Gordon. TESTIMONY OF DONALD GORDON Mr. Tavenner. You are Donald Gordon ? Mr. Gordon. Yes. Mr. Tavenner. When and where were you born, Mr. Gordon? Mr. Gordon. May I say just a word on the question of counsel ? Mr. Tavenner. Oh, I beg your pardon. Do you have counsel ? Mr. Walter. Are you represented by counsel ? Mr. Gordon. I wanted to say this, if I may. I was present in this room last Friday morning. I heard what seemed to me an improper and shocking attack upon another witness' attorney. At that point I felt that the right to have counsel was being invaded and I made up my mind that I could not subject any human being to another such attack, so though I do not waive any rights to counsel, I am here with- out counsel for that reason. Mr. Walter. Principally for the reason that you wanted to make the speech you just made; isn't that the reason ? Mr. Gordon. No ; the thought had not occurred to me until the in- cident had occurred, because I had intended to have counsel. Mr. Walter. Well, I want to say this to you, sir, that it is becoming annoying—and that is a gross understatement of fact—to members