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COMMUNISM IX HOLLYWOOD MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY 2065 I say that membership in the Communist Party does not necessarily attach to those whom you may mention. We do require the informa- tion and under the authority that is vested in the committee I direct your answer to the questions which are directed by Mr. Wheeler. Mr. Fleury. Certainly, Congressman, under those circumstances I certainly shall. Besides Pomerantz the other individuals, Mr. David Hilberman, at his home. Mr. Wheeler. What is Mr. Hilberman's occupation? Mr. Fleury. At present I have no idea. He is no longer in this area. Mr. Wheeler. Do you recall his area at that time? Mr. Fleury. Yes. He was in the animation business. Mr. Wheeler. For Walt Disney? Mr. Fleury. I think long ago he had been; yes. Mr. Wheeler. Was Mrs. Hilberman present? Mr. Fleury. Yes. Mr. Wheeler. Do you recall her first name ? Mr. Fleury. Lib, I think. Mr. Wheeler. Did you ever attend a meeting at the home of Edward Biberman ? Mr. Fleury. No, sir; never. Mr. Wheeler. Do you know Edward Biberman? Mr. Fleury. I am acquainted with him as a teacher formerly with Art Center School. Mr. Wheeler. Do you recall anybody else's home that you attended meetings at? Mr. Fleury. No, sir; I don't. Those are really the only two that I do recall. Mr. Wheeler. Do you recall who attended these meetings? Mr. Fleury. Well, the individuals mentioned, naturally the homes. Well, they are the stand-outs. I simply don't remember, actually in so many words. Mr. Jackson. How many meetings did you attend, Mr. Fleury ? Mr. Fleury. Even that is indefinite, Mr. Jackson. I don't know. I know this, that I certainly was not a regular attendant, if you want to call it that. In fact, I was what would probably be called a very ill-disciplined member. Mr. Jackson. You are leaving us with the thought that out of the meetings that you did attend that you have no recollection of any names other than the two or three that you have mentioned? Mr. Fleury. Definitely and specifically—wait a minute. There is another one. A fellow by the name of John McGrew. Mr. Jackson. Do you know how Mr. McGrew was employed? Mr. Fleury. He was in the animation business, also. Mr. Jackson. Do you know where he was employed at that time ? Mr. Fleury. I believe Warner Bros., or Leon Schlesinger Pro- ductions. Mr. Jackson. What was the procedure used in calling one of these meetings ? Mr. Fleury. Oh, sometimes telephone—usually just telephone or you bumped into someone who said, "We are getting together on such and such a night." 93012—52—pt. 6 3