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20S8 COMMUNISM IN HOLLYWOOD MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY done it. Erwin met Lester Fuller and said that he thought he was very bright, and he talked to Jerry about the job. Jerry asked me to call his agent, who was George Willner, and have him come in. He talked to him, he liked him. He said, "I will get an O. K.," which he did, and Lester Fuller came to work. I again say, I don't know if you want it, that I hadn't talked to Lester in 10 or 11 years, I had no idea what his party affiliations were. I occasionally passed him in Hollywood as I pass 85 percent of the people and said, "Hello." I had not discussed anything with him, he was not my friend. I couldn't go to the producer and say, "This man is a Communist." I didn't know. Just as I knew I no longer was. Mr. Wheeler. I don't believe it is necessary to go over the entire list of 38 names with you; however, I would like to ask you again if any pressure was ever exerted upon you to hire anybody because of his past or present party affiliations? Miss Ettinger. Mr. Wheeler, I don't think so. I don't think so. May I add something to that ? Mr. Wheeler. Yes. Miss Ettinger. The agents in this town, and they sometimes make fun of it, know how tough I am on hiring writers, because how sure I make that he is right for the job and how sure I make that he has talent before he is hired. Mr. Wheeler. Have you ever been a member of the Arts, Sciences and Professional Council? Miss Ettinger. No. Mr. Wheeler. Have you ever been affiliated with the People's Educational Center? Miss Ettinger. What is that ? I don't know. Mr. Wheeler. Did you belong to the Motion Picture Democratic Committee? Miss Ettinger. I don't think so. Is that an organization out here? Mr. Wheeler. Yes. Miss Ettinger. No. Mr. Wheeler. Are you a member of the Arts, Sciences and Pro- fessions Council? Miss Ettinger. Is that an organization out here ? Mr. Wheeler. Yes. Miss Ettinger. No. Mr. Wheeler. Have you contributed any money to any of these organizations I have mentioned? Miss Ettinger. No. Mr. Wheeler. Would you like to add something in addition to what you have testified to, that you have not been questioned about? Miss Ettinger. In concluding this testimony I would like to get into the record, in synopsis form, the reasons that I became a member of the Communist Party and why I left. I never thought I was joining any party that was trying to over- throw the Government, or that was anti-American in any way. I thought I was joining a party which would explain the troubles of the world and be better able to understand it, and I found I was join- ing a debating society where peop^ told me what to think and when 1 refused to think that way I was wrong and I was maligned and it