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2102 COMMUNISM IN HOLLYWOOD MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mr. Jackson. How do you spell the last name, Doctor ? Dr. Krieger. I believe it was T-a-r-g-o. I am not sure. Mr. Jackson. Targo? Dr. Krieger. That's correct. Mr. Wheeler. What was her occupation ? Dr. Krieger. So far as I know, she was a housewife. Very frankly, I'll tell you, it has been so long ago that I honestly can't remember a lot of the names of people that were in the group. Mr. Wheeler. Do you recall attending a meeting at the home of Murray Abowitz, at which Charley Katz was present ? Dr. Krieger. No ; I do not. Mr. Wheeler. Do you know Charles Katz ? Dr. Krieger. No ; I do not know him personally. Mr. Wheeler. You have never met Charles Katz ? Dr. Krieger. No, sir; not that I know of. I may have met him under an assumed name, but I don't know him by that name. Mr. Wheeler. Do you know Howard Davis ? Dr. Krieger. Yes; that's right. He and his wife, too, were members. Mr. Wheeler. What was Mr. Davis' wife's name ? Dr. Krieger. That I can't recall. Mr. Wheeler. What was Mr. Davis' occupation? Dr. Krieger. He is an optometrist. Mr. Wheeler. He is a doctor? Dr. Krieger. That's correct. Mi-. Wheeler. What other doctors did you know to be members of the Communist Party ? Did you know Dr. Hy Engelberg ? Dr. Krieger. No ; I don't know him. Mr. Jackson. May I interject a short statement at this point, Doc- tor? The subcommittee appreciates the extent of your cooperation. It is not our desire—I assume that in the interim you have completely broken with the Communist Party? Dr. Krieger. I have. Mr. Jackson. Are you today opposed to the policies of international communism ? Dr. Krieger. I am. Mr. Jackson. Would you bear arms in the defense of this country if called upon ? Dr. Krieger. I would. Mr. Jackson. Do you consider yourself in every respect a loyal American ? Dr. Krieger. I certainly do. Mr. Jackson. It is certainly not the desire, nor the wish of the House committee, to unduly embarrass or to bring unfavorable pub- licity upon those who have sincerely broken with the Communist Party. However, I feel that I should say that in making up our agenda, we are going to take into consideration the extent of the cooperation afforded the committee by the witnesses we are hearing. That cooperation must largely be conditioned upon the willingness and the frankness of the witness to testify fully and completely on his associations and activities within the Communist Party, with spe- cial emphasis placed upon his associates. I say this preliminary to taking any further testimony, because I recognize, as all of us do, the natural reluctance of anyone to discuss his associates. However, again,