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COMMUNISM IN HOLLYWOOD MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY 2321 Mr. Moulder. Then could we assume you were a member of the Communist Party in 1941 other than attending meetings, or what was your attitude about that ? Mr. Levy. Well, I regarded myself so. Of the political association, rather. Mr. Doyle. I think you said there was no more party. Mr. Levy. That is right. It was the political association. Mr. Doyle. It was your understanding that it did not exist? Mr. Levy. I think that was true. I think the party did not exist then, or did not exist in any form that Mr. Moulder. That was the point that I referred to. Mr. Levy. I think Mr. Tavenner used the words interchangeably. Mr. Velde. Well, in your own mind, was not the Communist Politi- cal Association the same as the Communist Party ? Mr. Levy. No, sir. Mr. Velde. What, in your mind, was the difference between the two? Was there any difference in the personnel or the membership? Mr. Levy. This I don't know, because I don't know what the mem- bership was. There was certainly a difference, because I was a dif- ference. Mr. Velde. You mean there was a difference in your own mind? Mr. Levy. Yes, I was a difference. It was a difference in member- ship. Mr. Velde. You had belonged to the Communist Party prior to 1944? Mr. Levy. But I left for the specific reasons I stated, and would not have gone back, for those reasons. Mr. Velde. I am a little confused about this. I am sorry, Mr. Counsel. I understood you were a member of the Communist Party prior to its change to the Communist Political Association. Mr. Levy. This was in 1933. Mr. Tavenner. In 1933 he dropped out of the Communist Party. (Representative Donald L. Jackson left the hearing room at this point.) Mr. Vei.de. And you did not rejoin it again Mr. Levy. Unti 1*1944. Mr. Velde. When you joined the Communist Political Association? Mr. Levy. Yes. Mr. Velde. I see. Mr. Tavenner. How long were you a member of the Communist Political Association? Mr. Levy. Well, actually, technically, I suppose, I was a member until 1947, I think, some time in 1947. * I had stopped going to meet- ings a long time before that. But I think technically it was in 1947. Mr. Tavenner. Actually, the Communist Political Association went out of existence in 1945. Mr. Levy. Yes, sir. Mr. Tavenner. Therefore, you just remained in the Communist organization, which had converted in 1945 back to its former title, that of the Communist Party? Mr. Levy. What happened was that finally—I wasn't being around, and finally I was called on to say, "What do you want to do ?" Finally Mr. Huebsch called and said, "What do you want to do?" Mr. Tavenner. Who called ?