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3458 COMMUNISM IN HOLLYWOOD MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mr. Odets. I think so, because one time on a long extended auto trip I did meet him in Tennessee. Mr. Tavenner. Did he visit your home while he was in Tennessee ? Mr. Odets. Not that I would remember. He would visit my home when he lived in New York City. Mr. Tavenner. What was the purpose of his visits at your home in New York? Mr. Odets. They were always social visits. We both were interested in music, fine classical music, records. We might go out to dinner. Mr. Tavenner. Did any of those visits have anything to do with his interest or his work in the Communist Party ? Mr. Odets. No, sir; in no way. Mr. Tavenner. Did you subsequently learn that he became an or- ganizer for the Communist Party in Tennessee ? Mr. Odets. I don't know that of my knowledge; of my own per- sonal knowledge, I don't know that. Mr. Tavenner. Were you acquainted with a person by the name of Andrew Obergaard? Mr. Odets. Yes; I met him. Mr. Tavenner. Under what circumstances did you meet him ? Mr. Odets. In some way that I wouldn't remember. He came back- stage in one of our plays. And perhaps we went out to get a bite to eat or something to drink, some coffee. Mr. Tavenner. Did he attend the group meetings of the Commu- nist Party cell meetings to which you referred ? Mr. Odets. I would guess that he was introduced to people who were connected with this group within the group, so to speak. Mr. Tavenner. Did you recognize him as a functionary of the Communist Party? Mr. Odets. This would be my good guess. Mr. Tavenner. On what do you base that statement ? Mr. Odets. Well, the Communist Party functionaries, when they are such, are always secretive. They never announce themselves as Communist Party functionaries. But they have a quality of author- ity, a quality of talking with knowledge, and one makes the surmise that this is some kind of functionary. Mr. Tavenner. And it was on the basis of that conduct on his part that your judgment was that he was a functionary of the Communist Party? Mr. Odets. Yes, sir. Mr. Tavenner. Do you recall any occasions when his advice was sought on Communist Party problems? Mr. Odets. I remember one such occasion. The occasion, as I think I have stated before, was we thought that actors should get rehearsal pay, which was an unheard of thing and rather a lunatic idea in those days. We wanted or perhaps we did first go to an Actors' Equity Asso- ciation meeting and made no headway at all. My best memory is that we then in some way consulted with Mr. Obergaard, who sug- gested certain tactical moves to make to get our proposal on the floor, and I have no memory of particular details but I do know that this small group within the Group Theater did get for every actor in the United States rehearsal pay. That is, we were the beginning of such a movement.