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4490 COMMUNISM IN HOLLYWOOD MOTION-PICTURE INDUSTRY Mr. Burrows. As far as I know, he was never employed in radio. I don't know of any shows he might have written. Mr. Tavexxer. What did lie do, if yon know \ Mr. Burrows. I don't know. I remember at the time I kind of used to wonder. You know, there were a lot of people around that I mentioned who called themselves radio actors, radio writers, but who actually don't write in radio or act in radio but they call themselves actors and writers. I don't recall this fellow, for instance, ever writ- ing for radio. Mr. Tavexxer. "Were you acquainted with Elaine Gonda \ Mr. Burrows. I made a note of that when I saw her name. I re- membered her when I read Charles Glenn's name because I think that they were having a kind of romance or something, it struck me, be- cause I remember seeing them sitting Mr. Tavexxer. Well, they became married, didn't they? Mr. Burrows. Really? Well, that is the end of the romance. Mr. Tavexxer. That was Elaine Gonda. Mr. Burrows. Well, I remember her in connection with—I don't quite remember what she looked like, but I remember they used to sit and hold hands, I think. Mr. Tavexxer. What type of meetings were these at which this occurred? Mr. Burrows. Well, I think that they were present together at this one study group that I told you about which was based on this litera- ture and art book. Mr. Tavexxer. Were you acquainted with Gene Stone, another person identified by Mr. Vinson? Mr. Burrows. I vaguely remember his name. The reason I know his name now is because I heard gossip around Radio Row that he had married Pauline Hopkins, who was married to Owen Vinson. That is how I remember his name. I never knew of any work he did. Mr. Tavexxer. Were you acquainted with Jack Robinson? Mr. Burrows. He was a radio gag writer. He tried out for Duffy's Tavern, when I was writing it, and didn't get the job, but I remember him at guild meetings and stuff like that. I don't remember him in any political connection. Mr. Tavexner. Mr. Vinson also identified Annette Harper as a member. Mr. Burrows. That name doesn't mean anything to me, sir. Mr. Tavexner. Were you acquainted with Paul Marion? Mr. Burrows. Paul Marion I knew as an actor. He was around in the Actor's Lab, I believe. I saw him in a performance and I remem- ber he once came up and auditioned for me. I think it was for Duffy's Tavern, something like that, something I was to do. I used to hire actors. That is how I recall Paul. I never remember any political meetings with Paul Marion. Mr. Tavexxer. Mr. Paul Marion testified the same with regard to you: that you had not been present at the time he was present, al- though Paul Marion testified that he was a member of this same group. Mr. Burrows. I see. Well, T didn't know. Mr. Tavexxer. I would like to go back for a moment to your work in New York City. You stated while in New York City you met Samuel Sillen, and also Joe North. Now, when was that?