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COMMUNISM IN MOTION PICTURE INDUSTRY 471
Mr. Stripling. Regarding Mr. Eisler.
Mr. ScHARY. Where is that, sir? Where would I find it ?
Mr. Stripling. I would be glad to find it.
Now, Mr. Schary
The Chairman. May I ask a question right there?
Mr. Schary. Yes, sir.
The Chairman. In view of the testimony that was presented to the Un-American Activities Committee concerning Hanns Eisler and knowing him now as a Connnunist, and knowing also the record of both Gerhart Eisler and Hanns Eisler, would you as a studio executive be willing to hire him now ?
Mr, Schary. As I told Mr. Stripling, if there is evidence to support the charge that he is dedicated to the overthrow of the Government by force I would not hire him. I would hire no such man because I believe he would not be dedicated to the best interests of America.
The Chairman. Just let's forget that for a second, and think of Hanns Eisler.
Mr. Schary. Yes, sir.
The Chairman. You have read a lot about Hanns Eisler lately ?
Mr. Schary. Yes, sir.
The Chairman. Would you be willing to rehire Hanns Eisler?
Mr. Schary. I think, Mr. Thomas — and I really don't want to be evasive, and I don't want you to assume that I am — I can only judge in terms of the record. Now, I have been asked by Mr. Stripling that if, on the record, I was shown that this man had been definitely proven that he was dedicated to the overthrow — that the Communist Party was dedicated to the overthrow of the Government — of course I would not hire him. But I cannot judge that until it is part of a proven record. I think I must do that as a citizen.
The Chairman. All right. Well, supposing it is not called to your attention that the Communist Party is dedicated to the overthrow of the Government by force or violence, but knowing the record of Hanns Eisler — just think in terms of Hanns Eisler — having read what you have about Hanns Eisler, aro you willing to rehire Hanns Eisler?
Mr. Schary. Well, you get into a completely different area. You are confusing me between a matter of a principle and a matter of whether I would, as an executive in charge of motion pictures, hire Hanns Eisler.
The Chairman. I am talking about you now as an executive.
Mr. Schary. As an executive, I can only repeat and maintain that position, Mr. Chairman, which I think is a very rational position as a citizen. I will hire only those people I believe best qualified for their jobs until it is proven, until it is a matter of record, and if that record is shown to me of course I would not hire anyone who is dedicated to the overthrow of the Government by force.
The Chair:man. All right, but supposing we can prove that Hanns Eisler was a Communist and was very active as an international Communist
Mr. Schary. Yes.
The Chairmax. But there has never been any proof, we will say, that he advocated, ])ersonally advocated, the overthrow of the Government by force or violence.
Mr. Schary. Yes.