In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1913)

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Harry N. Marvin, Direct Examination. 223 entirely, because they were not able, owing to various causes, to absolutely enforce their patents — a certain amount of lilm continued to come into the country in infringement of their patents, which they were unable absolutely to stop. Q. When film is imported, what patent do you claim it violates? A. When? Mr. Grosvenor: Read the question. The question was repeated to the witness. A. Well, I asked the question, "when," because — Q. (Interrupting.) If I am not clear, I will change my question. A. You will change it? (>. If it is not clear to you. I say, when films are imported to-day from abroad, and by film I mean moving picture film positives, what patent is infringed? A. When such film is sold for use on a projecting machine — Q. (Interrupting.) I am not saying when it is sold. I say when it is imported into this country, what patent does it infringe? If you cannot answer that, go on and answer it in your own way? A. I am not finicky about the matter, but — the film does not infringe the patent at all. It is the man who handles the film, as I understand it, and the importer who brings the film into this country when he sells that film, violates the patent covering the film, and if he sells that film intentionally for use upon a patented projecting machine, he becomes a contributory infringer upon the patented projecting machine, and that is why I asked "when." Q. Prior to the formation of this Patents Company, yon had maintained throughout your business life, that the film was unpatented, hadn't you? A. No. We knew that the film was patented, but we claimed that we would be able to defeat the film patent. Q. And you claimed that you had defeated the film patent? A. Well, we claimed that we had defeated the first general patent of Edison, which covered film and camera. That patent— Q. (Interrupting.) You never imposed any restriction upon the use of films with your projecting machines prior to the beginning of 1908, when you and the Edison people