In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1913)

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306 William Hj. Swanson, Direct Examination. the thing. I knew it before any one else did, in the exchange business, other than the manufacturers who were in the exchange business. The conversation in the room — Mr. Selig, Mr. Kleine and Mr. Spoor endeavored to show me what a great benefit it would be to themselves to have this thing go through, as they had outlined it, or as it had been outlined. Q. In what way did they point out the benefits? A. The License Company formation and the contract as proposed. Q. In what way would it benefit them? A. It would benefit them in having control of the business, and shut out competition. Mr. Caldwell: It is understood that my objection applies to this entire conversation. Mr. Grosvenor: I have said so several times. Mr. Caldwell: Not with respect to this conversation. You had in mind another conversation. Mr. Grosvenor: If you will keep your objection in mind, and not interrupt the witness — Mr. Caldwell (Interrupting) : I do not mean to interrupt the witness. I think the time to make the objection is when the question is asked. Mr. Grosvenor: It is understood that Mr. Caldwell's objection, incompetent, immaterial and irrelevant, can be put in whenever he likes, at a later time. (To the stenographer.) Now, will you kindly read that answer as far as it has gone, and let the witness hear it? The stenographer thereupon repeats the answer. A. I told the gentleman there that I had already in my possession a copy of the proposed contract with the exchanges, and I also had a copy of another contract that they proposed putting out relative to projecting machines. This second contract never had been put out by the Patents Company, and they said if I was their friend, which I had presumably been for years, that I would work with them to help them put it over, as they thought well of the scheme, and it would unquestionably make them all rich, and would perhaps be personally beneficial to me, but they requested one particular favor, that T would make no speech regarding the