In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1913)

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William II. Swanson, Direct Examination. 321 Q. Have you been engaged at any time in the business of manufacturing motion picture films? A. I have. Q. With what companies? A. The Rex Motion Picture Manufacturing Company, and now the Universal Film Manufacturing Company. Q. In what year did the Rex Company commence doing business? A. December, 1911. Q. And did you ever have any difficulty in getting raw film? A. Yes, sir, a great deal of it. WTe were never able until recently to get Eastman Kodak film. Q. Any reason stated for the refusal? A. The reasons that were stated — I cannot produce the letters in which the reasons were stated. Q. Where are the letters? A. I do not know. I have had to give this testimony in so many different things, that these various matters are scattered around among different attorneys. Q. State the reasons now, and we will try to get the letters later. Mr. Caldwell: The testimony is objected to, unless the letters are produced. A. Well, then, I can only broadly say, it was always understood among the trade that Eastman had refused to sell his raw products to any but the Motion Picture Patents Company or persons whom they authorized to buy it. In one instance, I know they refused to sell the United States Government any, the Bacteriological Committee in Denver. They had me write to Eastman for them, and tried to get it for them, and they could not get it. Q. You are referring now to the sensitized film which is run through the camera and receives impressions of the pictures? A. Both the negative and positive film, yes, sir. They were compelled to use foreign made material, and it caused a great loss through imperfection and wasting. Q. Back in 1908, and preceding years, were some of these different manufacturers of motion picture films duping? A. Yes, sir. Q. What do you mean by duping? Copying another man's film? A. Yes, sir. It is a process of utilizing a photograph originally made by the producers of the same, by contact