In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1913)

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322 William Hi. Swanson, Direct Examination. with unexposed positive, and making a negative of that, and then printing from that second negative. Q. Which companies were leading in the art of duping? I mean by that, doing the act the most frequently? A. Well, one of the most successful and accomplished dupers was Mr. Lubin, and the next to him was the Edison Company. Q. Did the Edison Company sell two grades of films? A. Class A and B. Q. With different prices? A. The class A was 12 cents a foot, and the class B was 10 cents a foot. Q. What did class B consist of? A. Class B of the Edison productions was made up of inexpensive productions, such as travel scenes and so forth, and principally dupes. Q. What other manufacturers were duping in those years? A. Well, Selig kept himself quite busy with it. Q. And others? A. The Biograph Company were duping, but they did so, I believe, with an understanding, and the paying of a royalty to the parties who originally made the film, and the consent of the original producers. Q. Did the larger per cent, of the manufacturers of projecting machines also take out licenses from the Patents Company? A. All of them who could get a license did, yes, sir. There were just three makes of projecting machines that I know of that did not get a license. Q. That did not get a license? A. Yes, sir. Q. Were those the leading manufacturers? A. No, sir. Q. Was there any change in the prices of projecting machines after the formation of the Patents Company? A. There was a very great change in prices. Q. Up or down? A. Upwards. Q. Please state what that variation in the price was, to the best of your recollection? A. Well, for instance, the Edison projecting machines were sold at $95. Immediately after the formation, it was sold for $155. The Selig Polyscope, before the formation of the Patents Company, sold for whatever they could get for it. They standardized their price at $150. The Power's machine sold about, I believe, $95, and it was later sold at $150, and without any additional improvements to any of the machines to amount to anything to justify the **ate. Then, there were other changes made to the machines, and the prices were raised to $225. Q. As a rental exchange, you had been dealing in projecting machines with the different manufacturers prior to the formation of the Patents Company? A. I did, yes, sir. I