In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1913)

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William EL Swanson, Direct Examination. 323 purchased machines in lots of 100, 150 and 200 at a time. Q. Were you acquainted with the prices quoted with Eastman on raw film prior to 1908, and after the Patents Company was formed? A. Yes, sir. Q. What change was there in their price? A. I used to pay three cents a foot for it before the Fatents Company was formed. I pay 3 and five-eighths cents a foot for it now, which is one-eighth of a cent more than the Patents Company pay. Q. Mr. Swanson, you had conversations at various times with Mr. Dyer and the other organizers of the Patents Company in regard to trade conditions and changes in trade conditions during the years 1908 and 1909? A. Yes, sir. Q. And about the license agreements and 1 he character of the persons that they should be issued to? A. Yes, sir. Q. Do you recall whether or not at any time Mr. Dyer stated that licenses should not be issued to certain members based on their faith or nationality? A. Yes, sir. Mr. Williams : We object to that as leading. That is the limit on a leading question. Q. Please state to the best of your recollection what, if anything, was said in that connection by Mr. Dyer. A. Mr. Dyer remarked to me on a number of different occasions that there would not be any room in the moving picture business for the Jews, if they could prevent it, the Edison Company as well as the Motion Picture Patents Company. Q. Did any of the other organizers of the Patents Company at any time make the same statement to you? A. In conversations with Mr. Spoor and Mr. Selig, that was frequently discussed. I asked them what they were going to do with Mr. Lubin and Mr. Selig, thinking, as I did, that Mr. Selig was of the Jewish faith. They said they were going to dispose of Lubin in their own way, that is, that Mr. Lubin would be disposed of eventually, but they did not know just exactly how it was to be done. The Examiner: The hearing is adjourned until to-morrow morning at 10:30 A. M. Thereupon, on this Tuesday, the 21st day of January, 1913, the hearing in this case is adjourned to Wednesday, January 22nd, 1913, at the Hotel McAlpin.