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478 William H. Swanson, Direct Examination.
him any list which was considered of value to an exchange, and he then pulled his coat off, and rolled up his sleeves, and said that he was a fresh college graduate and a football player, and gave me an illustration of his muscular development, of his arms, and stated that there was nobody any larger in the business than the Patents Company, and that if they had any degree of size that they would be the first to be knocked on the head, and he said he had a damned good idea that I would be the first fellow knocked on the head, and with that I ordered him out of the office.
I met him at the College Inn, the following night, in the presence of Mr. George Kleine. I told him I thought he was a very energetic and a hustling young man, and if he would come and work for me I would give him a salary of $25,000 a year, and he asked Mr. Kleine if he thought 1 would fulfill that sort of an agreement, and Mr. Kleine said he thought I would, and he left me with the understanding that he was to think the matter over, and that is the last I have seen of Mr. Church.
Q. Mr. Swanson, you went out, I understand, of the rental exchange business in Chicago, after your trouble with the Patents Companp? A. Not alone in Chicago, but in St. Louis, Omaha, Kansas City and New Orleans as well.
Q. And then did you go to Denver? A. Yes, sir.
Q. And establish a rental exchange there? A Yes, sir.
Q Have you been engaged in the manufacture of film within the last few years? A Yes, sir.
Q. And what was the name of your company? A. The first company I established was a partnership known as the Defender Company; that was in existence for a few months, and they incorporated, and it was known as the Rex Motion Picture Manufacturing Company. That company was recently sold to the Universal Film Manufacturing Company.
Q. Are you an officer of the Universal Film Manufacturing Company? A. The Secretary.
Q. Secretary of that company? A. Yes, sir.
Q. You are one of the stockholders of the company? A. Yes, sir.