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William H. Swanson, Cross Examination. 655
Q. Mr. Swanson, what was the object in the formation of 1 the Universal Film Company?
Mr. Grosvenor: I object to that as too irrelevant to be competent, and not proper cross examination, and going into matters outside of the record, and not in any way material in this case.
Mr. Willis: I am like yon. I want to show the general trend in the business.
The Witness: I am very much afraid that you will try to sic on another investigation of the independents.
Mr. Willis : I am not trying to do anything of that sort. I want you to appear in your true light. That is all. Read the question.
The question was read by the stenographer.
The Witness : The primary object was to make money.
By Mr. Willis :
Q. Well, what was the secondary object, if you had one? A. To make money.
Q. Now, will you kindly tell me how you were going to make money? A. Selling film and manufacturing it.
Q. What was the purpose of putting all these five parties, three of them corporations, and two of them firms, into one company? Why did not you let them alone and let them make money separately? A. The activity of the Patents Company was so great, that it was impossible to make money separately. Legal difficulties and litigation that they caused, was so extensive, and their organized efforts in having control of the business, and control of the programme, necessitated meeting that sort of competition with some sort of organized efforts.
Q. Did the Universal Film Company own any patents, either on films or projecting machines, or cameras? A. Xo, sir. Thank God.
Q. Well, what were you to be sued for? A. I will have to refer you to Messrs. Kenyon & Keuyon on that. It is too complicated for my comprehension.
Q. Did they go after you for infringement of patents?
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