In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1913)

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744 William H. Swanson, Cross Examination. Q. After you gave the assets away you didn't ascribe very much value to the stock at that time, did you, except for the purposes of your testimony? A. Well, I felt there was a value to it, inasmuch as the man I gave the exchange to said if he ever made any money he would pay me for this stock; I never had any keen desire for the stock. Q. And your Kansas City place had been closed sometime back in 1908, during the period of Mr. Dyer's having an official position with the Edison people? A. No, it was not closed. When you asked how many exchanges I had, I had forgotten the Kansas City one. I had five at the time you mentioned, in January, 1909 — it was one of them, although it was not prepared to buy film; it was what was known as a "junk shop." Q. It was what was known as a "junk shop?" A. Yes, sir. Q. Had not been buying film from the Edison licensees? A. No, sir. Q. How long had you been cut off at that time? A. Long enough to — say two or three months. Q. You have testified further in your direct examination that Mr. Dyer had put you out of business, or something to that effect? A. Yes, sir, Mr. Dyer put me out of business in Kansas City. You are referring to that? Q. Yes. On the occasion of the formation of the Patents Company you came on here some days before the meeting of the Film Service Association? A. Yes, sir. Q. You had knowledge of the terms of the license, or the form of the license, that was to be used, for some two or three days prior to the meeting itself, didn't you? A. Yes, sir, I did. Q. Did you go over this license with any of the manufacturers, or any members of the Film Association, before the meeting? A. I don't recall. Q. Did you have a talk with Mr. Lubin prior to the meeting of the Film Service Association in reference to the license? A. Well, in reference to the general situation — well, I had a talk with him, I remember. Q. Did Mr. Lubin say to you he had been fighting for years, and had gone broke twice before, fighting in court? A. That took place in the meeting. Q. He did say it? A. Yes, sir. Q. You heard him? A. Yes, sir.