In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1913)

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748 William H. Swanson, Cross Examination. member that; I don't believe I made any $150,000 figure for that. Q. You don't quite recall that? A. No, sir. Q. But if you signed such a statement you made it, of course? A. Certainly. Q. I think you described the competition which existed between you and others in the latter part of 1908 as ruinous — A. (interrupting) : I didn't describe it as ruinous. Q. Didn't you say there was a time that you proposed to Mr. Dyer that the film rental exchanges should turn over half of their interests to the Edison business, in order to get the protection of the Edison patents? A. I didn't put it in that way. Q. Perhaps I can refresh your recollection. Wasn't there a time that you came East as a committee of one — A. (interrupting) : Yes, I recall. Q. (continuing) : As a committee of one representing the rental exchanges of Chicago, and you saw Mr. Dyer and said, "Can't something be done to stop this ruinous competition?" A. I came from Chicago to New York. I did not see Mr. Dyer. No. Q. You called him up on the 'phone and said, "Can't something be done to stop this ruinous competition?" A. Not to stop the ruinous competition. To keep his promise of shutting out the independents. Q. And didn't you say, "If you will stop this ruinous competition" — A. (interrupting) : I beg your pardon. Q. Don't interrupt me. You will have plenty of time when I get through. A. I don't want you to put those words in my mouth that I did not use; "ruinous competition." Q. You don't think you used them? A. I don't think I did. Q. The Omaha Exchange, I think you said, was burned while the Film Association was meeting in January, 1909? A. Burned that day. Yes. Q. At what price was the Edison Exhibition Model of projecting machine sold in 1908, before the formation of the Patents Company? A. I don't recall. That sort of thing slipped my mind. I think it was $95. Q. Wasn't it $155? A. $155? No. That was an improved model that was sold at that price.