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2214 Albert J. Gilligham, Direct Examination.
the Fire Marshal's office, at Lansing, Michigan, and also, from a list which we have in onr office that is compiled for our records through information that the traveling representative brings in, and also, through the theatres that we are furnishing, and that we know that the exchanges are furnishing.
Q. Are all motion picture theatres in Michigan required to be licensed? A. All of the theatres in the cities are licensed, and there is also a State law that was passed at the last session of the Legislature at Lansing, that requires them to be inspected twice a year by the State Fire Marshal's office, but that law is inoperative at the present time, owing to the fact that there were injunctions got out by Corporation Attorney Lawson, of the City of Detroit, claiming that they had no right — the State had no jurisdiction in Detroit —
Mr. Grosvenor: I object to that as immaterial.
The Witness : — owing to the fact that the theatres there were built under the requirements of the city ordinance, which requires that a certificate has to be furnished by the Public Lighting Commission, the Building Commissioner, and the City Fire Marshal.
By Mr. Caldwell:
Q. At the time you went into the motion picture business, what was the character of the theatres in your territory? A. The character of the theatres at that time were all store shows; in fact, I am frank in stating that when you told a man you were in the motion picture business, if you would happen to meet a gentleman on the train or anywhere, he would naturally look, and ask what it was. It was looked on with disfavor, as all store shows previously had been shows of an undesirable character. Mostly fake shows. Shows that were showing monstrosities, or had displays outside with a hand organ or a sick monkey. Something of that order. At first, when these shows were put in, they were put in temporarily, and, in a great many instances, there was not much attempt to fit up the store in which the projecting machine was placed.
Q. What is the character of the theatres, motion pic