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Ike Van Ronkel, Direct Examination. 2231
Q. Was there much of a demand for pictures of that character in Chicago? A. Not from the exhibitor, the public exhibitor, but from churches, public officers, penitentiaries, insane asylums, and so forth, we supplied quite a few. We supply all of the public places of that kind.
Q. So you found no difficulty whatever in accumulating a so-called library of educational and scientific subjects from the stock of film that you had on hand, and which you replenished from time to time? A. We picked out whatever we wanted, and reserved it, and we have got a nice library of that film on hand.
Q. Is it a profitable part of the business? A. Well, medium.
O. Do you get good prices from schools and public exhibitions that you lease them to? A. Well, the educational end of it is not as high a price as the later released film. The prices are only medium from the churches. We do it to help the educational part of it along, to elevate the business. We do not try to charge them as much as the man that is making money off of it.
Q. Did you find that the change from the sale under the former practice to a leasing, under the Patents Company license, made any change in the extent of the business that you did? A. Xot a bit. Only it helped us to get rid of the stuff. We had strict fire regulations in our city, and we had accumulated more film than the city would allow us to keep, and it was a good way to get rid of it. Otherwise we would have had to burn it up ourselves.
Q. Prior to January, 1909, was it, or was it not, a common practice in your territory in which you operated for two exchanges to serve the same exhibitor simultaneously? A. Yes, sir, it was quite frequent in our territory. Quite an annoyance, and quite a detriment to the business, from both the exhibitors' and the public standpoint.
Q. In what respect? A. By one exhibitor having a program advertised, and his competitor, getting from two exchanges, would probably get his reels previous, a day or two, to the other man getting it, and spoil his advertising, and get his public dissatisfied, and naturally put him out of business in a little while.
Q. Did it tend to conflicts in programs, and repeaters?