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George K. Spoor, Direct Examination. 3007
for making' titles, and they also copied films. I was called on at one time by Mr. John Hardin, the agent of the Edison Company, to go down to his place and look at a copy of an Edison film— he thought it was a dupe — and to pass on it. I did so, together with Mr. Rock and some other men, and it really was a dupe, and the dupe had been made by Baker or Miller of the Globe Film Exchange, in i heir title place.
Q. Did you know, also, of an exchange operated in Chicago in 1908 and 1909, called the "Chicago Film Exchange?'' A. Yes, sir.
Q. Who was the owner or operator of that exchange? A. Max Lewis was one of the owners.
Q. Did you know what reputation thai exchange had in Chicago? A. They also conducted a duping plant in a building next door to their offices, to their exchange offices.
Q. Was or was not that considered a disreputable prac tice in the business? A. Yes, it was.
Q. Then from your knowledge of the.;. three exchanges would you say they were reputable or disreputable? A. I would say they were disreputable from that,
Q. Did you know anything about the financial status of those exchanges, or either of them? Was it good or bad? A. It was not good.
Q. Do you happen to know whether either of those exchanges was subsequently licensed by the Motion Picture Patents Company? A. I believe not. I believe they were not.
Q. Do you recall whether, the night that Swanson spent at the Republican Club, to which reference has just been had. was the night preceding the convention of the F. S. A. at the Imperial Hotel? A. No, there had been a convention during that day, and they were going to, I guess, have another meeting the next morning, of some kind, but they had had their convention that very day.
Whereupon, at 11:40 o'clock A. M., March 10th, 1911, the hearings were adjourned until 10:30 o'clock A. M., March 11th, 191-1, to be resumed at Boom 150, Manhattan Hotel, New York City.