In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1914)

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Harry N. Marvin, Cross Examination. 3281 in which it is supposed to be at the point indicated, was first used in such a condition by Mr. Edison, and has been since that time commonly characterized as Edison film. Q. Did Edison make that film, witness? Answer the question yes or no. A. Make what film, Mr. Grosvenor? Q. Did he make the film which is represented on that diagram? A. As I have stated, that diagram represents an imaginary film. Q Did Edison ever make any motion picture film? A. I don't know. Q. Is not your knowledge of the business sufficient to enable you to answer the question yes or no, whether Edison ever did make and sell and put on the market any motion picture film? A. I don't know. Q. Well, then, why do you call that "Edison film" if you don't know whether or not Edison ever made any film? A. I endeavored to explain that that diagram represents an imaginary film of a type that I understand was created by Mr. Edison. Q. Do you mean to imply or testify that Edison created — is that the word you used? A. Created is the word I used. I did not say that he created the film. I said I understood that he created a type of film. Q. What type of film did Edison create? A. The type indicated on the diagram. Q. Did you ever see any type of film manufactured by Edison on any camera? A. I don't know that I have ever seen any film manufactured by Edison — Q. I did not ask you whether you knew or not. I asked you did you ever see any film, any type of film, on any camera at any time in your experience in the motion picture business, which was made by Edison? A. I do not know that Edison ever made any film. Q. Well, did you ever see any film made by Edison? A. Well, that I cannot tell. I have seen lots of film, but I don't know who made it. Q. Don't you know, Mr. Marvin, that the question of who did invent that film is a question which is in litigation between the Eastman Company and others, and that Edison never claimed to invent that film? A. I think, Mr. Grosvenor, you are talking about one thing and I am testifying about another.