In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1914)

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Harry N. Marvin, Cross Examination. 32S3 type of film as that referred to in the prior diagram? A. Yes. Q. Has anything been done by Edison to that film prior to its appearance at that point on the diagram? A. I do not understand your question. That is a diagramatic illustration of an imaginary film. Q. Imagine to yourself that that is a camera and the diagram of a camera which it purports to represent, and that you are going out with such a camera, and that yon have not any film to put on the supply reel? Where would you get your film to put on that supply reel? A. Well, I could get it from any one of a number of makers that supply Edison film. Q. Would you get any of it from Edison? A. I might. Q. Does Edison manufacture any film? A. I don't know that he does. Q. You know that he does not, don't you, Mr. Marvin? A. No, I don't. I know that he has considered it sometimes. At least, I understand that he has. Q. Has he manufactured any to sell? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. Then why do you call that Edison film at that point on the diagram? A. Why, I understand that Mr. Edison created that type of film, and that that name is properly applied to any film of that type, no matter who makes it. Q. I thought you said that Edison never made the film. A. I said he created the type. Q. How do you mean, he created the type? What did he do in making the type? A. He just created it. Q. How did he create it? A. I don't know; with his mind, I suppose. Q. You don't mean to say that the raw film was made by Edison, do you? A. I don't know whether he made raw film or not. He has made a great many things. Q. I am not asking yon about other things. I am asking yon, did he ever make raw film? A. I don't know. Q. If yon don't know that, how can yon say that lie created the type? A. He did not have to make raw film in order to create a type of film. Q. Did Edison invent or create any sensitized emulsion to be placed on the raw base or on the base, enabling [\ to receive the impression, or a photograph? A. T don't know Q. Please state wha.1 Edison did do by reason of which you say lie created the type? A. Well, I understand —