In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1914)

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Harry N. Marvin, Redirect Examination. 3307 Mr. Kingsley : Objected to as incompetent, immaterial and irrelevant. Mr. Grosvenor: Do von make any objection for the reason that it is not certified? Mr. Kingsley: No. I also object on the further ground that the cross examination has had no relevancy to the issues in this case, and has been founded upon an absolute misconception thereof on the part of the attorney representing the Petitioner. Mr. Grosvenor: I introduce that exhibit to showthat the statements and the labels on the diagrams entitled "Edison film" are misleading, and this is introduced in part as an impeachment of the testimony and of the exhibits on that point. Redirect examination by Mr. Church: Q. You have described the essential characteristics of a motion picture film, and you have also described the essential characteristics of a motion picture camera for producing such a film. The conception of which of these things, the film or the camera, in your judgment, preceded the other? A. If I am permitted to give an explanation of my opinion on that point, I should state that unquestionably the conception of the motion picture strip or film must have preceded the conception of the motion picture camera, and when I say must have preceded, I use the word with reference to any reasonable line of logical thought. For example, if I have before me as an inventor, the problem of obtaining a quick and convenient means of fire, I might conceive an elongated, tough, non-flexible structure having upon one end thereof an inflammable substance of such a nature as to be capable of cooperating with some other inflammable substance, so that when the two were brought together, a flame would result. That might take the form of a match. I should conceive, under those conditions, that I had invented a match, if no one had ever used a match before I did, although I did not invent the wood, nor did I give it any of those physical characteristics which it possesses, and although I did not invent the sulphur. If I wras the first to put the sulphur on the end of the match and combine the two with other chemicals in such a way as to produce an effective, useful, operative thing which had not previously existed, I should think