In the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, the United States of America, petitioner, vs. Motion Picture Patents Company, et al., defendants (1914)

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3308 Harry N. Marvin, Recross Examination. that I had created that, but now would come the problem of manufacture. How was I going to get matches enough to be of any use? Obviously I could not whittle them out by hand, and so I would have to go to work if I wished to make my invention of any use, and invent a machine that would make the match. Now, how could I think of inventing a machine to make a match before I had the picture of the match before me in my mind as something to be made? And therefore I say that the conception of the film must have preceded the conception of the machine to be used in making the film. Recross examination by Mr. Grosvenor : Q. What do you mean by "conception of the film1'? A. The invention of the film. Q. By that you mean, then, that it was necessary for someone to invent the film before anyone could conceive the idea of using the film? A. No, I did not say that a person must invent the film before they conceived the idea of using a film. I think the conception of use must come first. People engaged in invention, particularly inventors of experience, endeavor to supply by inventions, demands which they know to exist. Redirect examination by Mr. Church: Q. Then are we to understand that your idea is that the conception of a motion picture film having the characteristics of those already described by you, must have preceded the conception of a machine for producing such a motion picture film? A. Unquestionably the conception of the film in this exact form that it was desired to have it, must have preceded the invention of a machine to produce such a film. Recross examination by Mr. Grosvenor : Q. But the conception of that film was not Edison's, was it? A. I always supposed it was, Mr. Grosvenor. You state that it was not, but I supposed that it was. Q. In using the word "conception'' you mean invention? A. Yes. Mr. Grosvenor : I introduce as part of the cross ex