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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 35
Mr. Kahane. I couldn't give you the date. I would guess it was sometime in December of '45 or January of '46.
Mr. McCann. I am going to ask, Mr. Chairman, that counsel for the lATSE secure that information.
Mr. LuDDY. I will give it to you.
Mr. McCann. Who did the construction work on the sets prior to that time ?
Mr. Kahane. The carpenters.
Mr. McCann. The carpenters did?
Mr. Kahane. Yes.
Mr. McCann. Do you know for how long they did it prior to the
Mr. Kahane. I testified this morning that all the time that I have been in Hollywood, and that is over 15 years.
Mr. McCann. In your statement you testified as to the effort of the producers to have the conflicting labor organizations agree between themselves by arbitration on points in conflict. Are you familiar with the agreement made on November 13, 1945, by the carpenters' local No. 946 and the lATSE grips' local 80 ?
Mr. Kahane. No ; I have heard there was such an agreement entered into. I have never seen it.
Mr. McCann. Mr. Luddy, do you know whether there was such an agreement, sir?
Mr. Luddy. Yes; there was an agreement between local 80 of the lATSE which specificaly provided, however, that it only purported to bind local 80. I would be very glad to furnish you with a copy.
Mr. McCann. I wish you would, sir. Thank you very much.
Please state all you know regarding the observance or nonobservance of this contract between the conflicting unions.
Mr. Kahane. Eefo-ring to that contract between the grips.
Mr. McCann. Yes.
Mr. Kahane. I know nothing about it.
Mr. McCann. You know nothing about it? In your statement you testified, "Our single labor problem is the jurisdictional dispute."
I hand you what is represented to be a copy of that letter from Mr. Richard Walsh of the lATSE to all former studio employees, dated April 14, 1945, and call your attention to Mr. Walsh's statement.
I want you to know that the International Alliance has reached an agreement with the producers' association by which the lATSE will supply all labor to the studios, not only in our crafts which were recognized before the strike, but also in those classifications which have been vacated by the striking union.
Please state who, if you know, made this agreement with Mr. Walsh.
Mr. Kahane. I don't think there was any such agreement made with Mr. Walsh on the part of the producers. That purports to be a directive that Mr. Walsh has given to his own men.
Mr. McCann. Would you explain to me, if you can — and I certainly do not want to impose any burden upon you that is improper — what Mr. Walsh meant when he said, "I want you to know the International Alliance has reached an agreement with the producers' association?"
Mr. Kahane. Well, I think he was signifying what happened. But it amounted to nothing more than this : They will furnish us the men if we want to keep the studios operating.