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36 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
Mr. McCann. Was there a discussion, sii', between your committee and Mv. Walsh over the matter which he refers to here as an agreement ?
Mr. Kahane. Yes; I would say there was a conversation with Mr. Walsh.
Mr. McCann. Who was present when that took place?
Mr. Kahane. I can recall Mr. Mannix, Mr. Freeman, myself, with Mr. Walsh, Mr. Brewer, and Mr. Cooper.
Mr. McCann. Tell us now, in your own language, just w'hat took place.
Mr. Kahane. I think that we said, "All right, here we are again." You are talking about the second strike, I assume?
Mr. McCann. I assume so. I am reading now as to April 14, 1945.
Mr. Price. That would be the first strike.
Mr. McCann. It refers to the first strike. That is a question propounded by Mr. Cobb.
Mr. Kahane. On the first strike it w'as no more than this: That Mr. Walsh said, "If you gentlemen want to keep your studios open, the lATSE will play ball with you. We will furnish you whatever men we can to keep your operations going."
Mr. McCann. And I assume from what you have said in your statement that that was perfectly satisfactory to the studios, because they wanted to run ?
Mr. Kahane. Definitely.
Mr. McCann. And so I assume that you would not take exception, then, to the statement made by Mr. Walsh to members of the IxVTSE, "I want you to know that the International Alliance has reached an agreement wnth the producers' association by which the lATSE will supply all labor to the studios."
Mr. Kahane. As a matter of fact, I think the press release at that time was that the lATSE had arranged to furnish the men, or something of that sort, or had an understanding about furnishing the men, but there was no formal agreement entered into.
Mr. McCann. There is no question that you did discuss it — that it was acceptable to the studios — and that he publicized it to the press ?
Mr. Kahane. That is right, sir.
Mr, McCann. And this agreement was made with Mr. Walsh or the representatives — or if you don't like the word "agreement," I am not trying to entraji you — this understanding was reached with INIr. Walsh by the representatives of the industry wdiom you have mentioned ?
Mr. Kahane. Yes, sir; and there probably were others present. I just don't recall that.
Mr. McCann. Do you know what agreement was made by Mr. Nicholas Schenck?
Mr. Kahane. I don't believe there was any agreement made by Mr. Schenck on behalf of the Hollywood producers.
Mr. McCann. Do j^ou know whether there is any written record of an agreement between Mr. Schenck and Mr. Walsh ?
Mr. Kahane. I don't know of any — never lieard of any. Mr. McCann. Is there anyone except Mr. Schenck who can testify on the terms of the agreements, if any, made between ]Mr. Schenck and Mr. Walsh?