Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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42 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES editors, without prop men, without any of the necessary crafts to run the studios, and possibly might have found oui'selves without theaters, because the projectionists might have walked out. So all we asked was that the orderly process of the law be carried out — that the NLRB should be the one to make the determination, and not make us yield to immediate pressure from either side. Mr. McCann. I wondered why you didn't, as an industry, come in and insist on a determination when those two interests were before the NLRB. Mr. Kaiiane. I tried, and I thought I made it clear that we were in the midst of a hearing with all parties represented when local 14'21 walked out of the hearing and saw fit to strike. Mr. McCaxn. Even if local 1421 walked out of the hearing, was there anj'^thing in tliat fact to prevent you from deciding that issue? Mr. Kahaxe. Well, the War Labor Board immediately said they have an established policy, where men go on strike they v/ill cease the hearing. Mr. McCaxn. I have another question. What form did the producers expect the lATSE reprisals would take when Mr. Walsh referred to such action that might be necessary to protect the interests of the international ? Mr. Kaiiaxe. I can only say we knew what his power was and therefore we had a right to believe — if we saw that the clarification went into effect, we might find ourselves without the necessary manpower to operate studios, possibly not the men to operate our film exchanges manned bv lATSE men. Possiblv some of our theaters might have been closed. Mv. McCax^x. Another question : When the lATSE intervened in 1944 before the NLRB to prevent local — I don't like this word that is suggested here, and I am trying to find another word to use; I am not trying to make anyone's case against anybody else here — to intervene with local 1421's request for certification, why did not the producers immediately file with the board for certification with tlie appropriate bargaining agency? Mr. Kaiiaxe. I wish I could answer that question. I wish we had. We might have averted some of the trouble at that time, although, as I stated, I don't believe the difficulty of those 77 set decorators was the real difficulty we have been having in Hollywood. That was just the spark. There were these underlying basic jurisdictional questions between carpenters and lATSE. And they used that as an excuse to bring out those other more important issues, sir. Mr. McCaxx. Those are all the questions suggested I care to submit, sir, on that. From Mr. Luddy : Did the lATSE agree that it would abide by the result of the NLRB hearing which was in progress when the 1945 strike was declared by the Conference of Studio Unions ? Mr. Kahaxe. Yes, sir. Mr. McCaxx. It did agree with that. Any further questions from any of you gentlemen ? I have several pages which have been submitted. I haven't had an opportunity to read them. I am not going to have an opportunity to road them. Mr. Price. A lot of it is immaterial. I don't particularly object.