Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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66 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. McCanx, Tell us for the purpose of the record at what time this conference was held in New York and where it was held. Mr. Casey. It was held at the Commodore Hotel. The dates I just don't remember. Mr. McCann. Was it in 1945 or 1946 ? Mr. Casey. 1945, 1 am pretty sure. Mr. McCann. And so you only attended that one day ? Mr. Casey. That is right, sir. Mr. McCann. Give us a description of what was done and what was said by the different parties at this conference. ;Mr. Casey. Well, each one tliere had a inatter to state on the work that was to be done, and tliey had the photographs of the work, and there' was quite a few arguments back and forth, but at the final one would say, "This is yours and this is ours; this is ours and this is yours," and as' I say, the first day it looked as if we were going to get somewhere. Mr. McCann. On that first day did Mr. Hutcheson show a disposition to yield to the lATSE on any of the pictures that he presented? Mr. Casey. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. He did? Mr. Casey. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. How many different jobs would you say that Mr. Hutcheson yielded on during the fii'st day while you were there ? Mr. Casey. I would say it probably was about 50-50. Mr. McCann. Then the representation of Mr. Walsh here that it was agreed on whenever Mr. Walsh said, "That is your job," and it was not agreed on whenever it referred to the other job, does not necessarily represent your recollection of what took place? Mr. Casey. It does not. Mr. McCann. You think Mr. Hutcheson was reasonable on the first day in the allocation of these different tasks ? Mr. Casey. I do. ]VIr. McCann. You did not attend, then, the second or third days of the hearing? Mr. Casey. No, sir. Mr. McCann. How long have you known Mr. Hutcheson? Mr. Casey. Twenty-five years. Mr. McCann. What has been your experience with him as the head of a great union ? Mr. Casey. It has just been marvelous, until this last difficulty arose. Mr. McCann. Until this last difficulty arose ? Mr. Casey. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. Do you think that Mr. Hutcheson could be prevailed upon to come here and to testify without requiring a subpena? Mr. Casey. No, sir. Mr. McCann. You think that he would have to be subpenaed? Mr. Casey. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. And he has to be found ? Mr. Casey. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. Do you think he is evading the subpena at this time? Mr. Casey. No; I wouldn't say that. Mr. McCann. AVell, our records show that we were not able to serve him in Indianapolis, and I just wondered whether you thought you could call Mr. Hutcheson and get him here.