Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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78 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Tell US, after they went before the National Labor Relations Board, after it was determined, step by step, what took place right up to the strike. Mr. Casey. The conference threatened us with a strike, and then the War Labor Board locally Mr. McCaxx. Wait a minute. Why did they threaten you with a strike? You knew when the claim was made the interior decorators Mr. Casey. They demanded that we recognize them as the bargaining agent. Mr. McCann. You had been recognizing them during the years, hadn't you? Mr. Casey. Yes; but they had then notified us that they had made another affiliation, and under their agreement that settled it. Mr. McCann. Let me understand this a little better. It seems to me you are a little at fault here. Mr. Casey. I may be. Mr. McCann. Iii other words, just because they made this change, there was no obligation on you to cease dealing with them, was there? INIr. Casey. There was an obligation on my part to accept the other bargaining agent or cancel the contract. Mr. McCann. Did you cancel it? Mr. Casey. No, sir. ]\Ir. McCann. Then you in effect accepted the other bargaining agent ? Mr. Casey. I didn't do either. I didn't accept them and I didn't cancel the contract. Mr. McCann. You just told us here that there was an obligation upon you either to accept the other bargaining agent or to cancel the contract. Mr. Casey. I did neither. INIr. McCann. You didn't do either? Mr. Casey. I did not. Mr. McCann. You Avere derelict in your duty. Mr. Casey. I presume I was. Mr. McCann. Now, Mr. Casey, I want to know, did you turn over the jobs that those people had been doing to the lATSE then ? Mr. Casey. No, sir. Mr. McCann. The lATSE had no historical background at that time of ever having done that work, had they ? Mr. Casey. Except that they may have had some of their local 44 pro):)erty people do it in some of the studios, but never recognized b} us. Mr. ]\fcCANN. If they did it, in other words, it was — insofar as the contractual relationship between you and the interior decorators — it was in violation of that contract? Mr. Casey. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. Now, take it up from there and tell us about this. Did thev go farther at that time? Mr, Casey. Then the society brought it to the attention of the War Labor Board locally, and they stepped into picture, and they were going to straighten it out if there wasn't any strike called, and then they referred it to Washington and then Washington referred it back, and it seesawed back and forth until finaly Washington sent a man out here to arbitrate it — a man named Tongue.