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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 79
Mr. McCann. a man named Tongue. How do yon spell that?
Mr. Casey. Thomas Tongue — T-o-n-g-u-e.
Mr. McCann. Go ahead now.
Mr. Casey. When he appeared here the lATSE refused to go into the situation in any way, shape, or manner.
Mr. McCann. Were they right or wrong in that?
Mr. Casey. I don't know. I don't know whether they had the right or whether they didn't have. They absolutely refused.
Mr. McCann. Well, they never had any power over the thing in the first place, so they probably were afraid if they arbitrated they would lose out ; isn't that right ?
Mr. Casey. They might. He, however, did arbitrate and render a decision.
Mr. McCann. In favor of whom ?
Mr. Casey. I believe, if I remember correctly, it was in favor of the interior decorators, but said that we should go before the National Labor Relations Board and ask for an election.
Mr. McCann. Did you do it ?
Mr. Casey. Yes, sir.
Mr. McCann. And what became of that?
Mr. Casey. I believe that they won out — the interior decorators belonging to local 1421 won the election.
Mr. McCann. All right; the interior decorators won the election. At what time was that ? Can you tell us, Mr. Price ?
Mr. Price. It was either in September or October of 19-15, because there was a contest over the election and over the votes, and the election was decided by two votes, I believe.
Mr. Kearns. Mr. Counsel, will you establish what percentage of the membership voted?
Mr. McCann. If you can tell us now, how many members voted in the election?
Mr. Price. There is a very peculiar situation there, Mr. Chairman. I have here the decision on the contested election, if you would like to have it in the record.
Mr. Kearns. Well, I want — does that disclose
Mr. Price. It does not disclose the vote ; no.
Mr. Kearns. Where can I find that ?
Mr. Price. I can tell you approximately what the vote was. I think it was 51 to 53, or approximately that.
Mr. Kearns. How many members were there then in the union ?
Mr. Price. There are about 77 such jobs in the industry, and after the strike had been called, the first bunch had gone out and a new group was working, so that there was a question as to whether the replacements or the strikers were allowed to vote, or both of them, and there was a contest over that, and the Board finally held, with one dissenting opinion, that both the strikers and the replacements were employees and entitled to vote.
It is very startling, but it is true that the result was that there were more votes cast than there were jobs. The result was 51 to 53, as I recall it.
Mr. Kearns. Where was the election held?
Mr. Price. It was held here.
Mr. Kearns. Where ?