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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIOXAl DISPUTES 117
from them and given back to the men, and vchen management and men have a right to talk to each other and discnss it, I think you could eliminate a lot of the trouble, and as long as yon leave the power rest in the hands of a few who are fighting for power, in my opinion, in that fight for power, 3^ou are never going to control these questions at the local level.
Mr. Kearns. Now, we have heard about the trip to Cincinnati for the Cincinnati agreement, and the trip to Miami for the Miami agreement. In other words, you had to leave Hollywood to negotiate whether you w^ere going to work in Hollywood or not ; is that correct?
Mr. Freeman. That is correct, sir.
Mr. Kearns. So, then, it goes back to the established precedent that we have had throughout the Nation, that we have powers from above here in labor that are calling the signals, and the men on the job that are working, or their representatives, have nothing to say.
Mr. Freeman. That is my judgment; that is my opinion.
Mr. Kearns. All right, I want that especially, because we have found that all over the country.
Now, one more question : Does Paramount have any contemplated building program of construction for the future — permanent construction ?
Mr. Freeman. Yes, sir.
Mr. Kearns. Have you, at any time during the war period, although you knew you could not build, probably made plans or submitted blueprints for costs of construction of various units?
Mr. Freeman. We have had plans that contemplated the improvement and the rebuilding of certain parts of our present lot, and we have asked various contractors to bid on them, and they would not undertake to do the work.
Mr. Kearns. Why wouldn't they?
Mr. Freeman. Because there was a strike.
Mr. Kearns. You mean that the contractors would not bid on it because they couldn't get the skilled carpenters to do the work?
Mr. Freeman. I would take that for granted. I don't say that they made that statement. I just said, because of this strike and the situation that existed, they just didn't care to bid.
Mr. Kearns. You think that would tie up with Mr. Casey's statement made by Mr. Hutcheson when he said that he would let him know^ right now that when they wanted to do some building
Mr. Freeman. I never heard Mr. Hutcheson make that statement.
Mr. Kearns. You didn't?
Mr. Freeman. No; I have never talked t*^' Mr. Hutcheson in my life.
Mr. Kearns. I said Mr. Casey.
Mr. Freeman. I heard Mr. Casey say that. If 5^011 are asking me if I believe what Mr. Casey said, I tell you I believe that 100 percent, and if he didn't state it, I still would believe it.
Mr. Kearns. Do you think that that is a very good condition, when an industry that represents the potential building possibilities that the movie industry does, and coidd give the enj]do3nnent that it could, should be stopped in that manner?
JNIr. Freeman. I certainly do not, sir.
Mr. Kearns. Do you have any correspondence or notice to the effect that 5^ou cannot build on the studio Jot?